that is, until we all use MLS via nostr:nprofile1qqs8t4ehcdrjgugzn3zgw6enp53gg2y2gfmekkg69m2d4gwxcpl04acpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsvd43n5

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MLS is also "trust my bro" privacy no?

what's "trust me bro" privacy? that seems like a paradox.

how I read it:

- the article seems kinda moot bc it basically says "the mapping from phone number to pubkey is trusted". we know that, every messenger using phone numbers has that problem and it's not related to MLS

- white noise is explicitly mentioned as not having this problem bc it has no phone numbers

nostr:nprofile1qqspwwwexlwgcrrnwz4zwkze8rq3ncjug8mvgsd96dxx6wzs8ccndmcpzamhxue69uhkv6tvw3jhytnwdaehgu3wwa5kuegpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezu6rpwd5xyctwvuhxumqpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdu8cev2y would you agree?

Yup. That's spot on.

Where's the retort for the "Who Benefits From MLS?" section?

nostr:nprofile1qqs84k6jpsav0jmdeqjn2zxlpnsajaw6f8l0m2d4e9t8gjsyn53s4nspp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuumfv9khxarj9e3k7mg2tdznx what do you think? 0xchat is also using MLS

pls sirs, form an MLS nostr committee and make everything interoperable

0xchat interops with chachi, since they follow nip-29.

I don’t know what whitenoise is using though.

Nostr MLS naturally addresses this issue by using the Nostr public key itself as the authentication mechanism. So this issue does not exist in the 0xchat-lite version or in WhiteNoise.