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Orange π waiter βοΈ. #nostr do your thing!
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Iβve sent him my remaining WoS sats.
We should be standing behind WoS for saying no to US regulations and standing up for bitcoins morals.
Morals Over Money.
Brilliant.
You're not in the US though so rock and roll.
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Sorry to say but you didn't orange pill them. You fiat pilled them with a custodial service.
Recommend Phoenix or Mutiny next time.
yeah, thanks ... unfollowed wiseguy
It's the truth. They don't have freedom money. They have a fancy IOU that they think is Bitcoin.
For a nocoiner it is no big deal
Yah and they're still a nocoiner after you send them an IOU
Wrong. They can transfer it out immediately to another person and get cash for it
So they go from nocoiner > IOUcoiner > back to nocoiner with cash
If this is hyperbitcoinization we are doing it wrong lol
Wrong. If they see how easy it is to get in and out of #bitcoin, it will peak their interest, they will learn about it and become a bitcoiner but If we do it your way, their eyes will glaze over and they will end up buying a monkey JPEG on ETH π
Try out Mutiny. It's even easier than downloading an app but doesn't run on custodial IOUs
We paid EVERYWHERE we went with bitcoin tonight and we told the venues we are paying in bitcoin even they thought they didn't accept bitcoin. we were putting up stickers, had fun, spread some love and our waiter actually knew about BTC and appreciated us.
So you do you, and we do us.
this and it's about more about spreading awareness and having fun in the process than actually converting a person to be a bitcoin maxi in 10 minutes while they have another 100 people to serve around you. we were just having fun but some people don't understand having fun.
Go in then and self custody orange pill a waiter on the fly. Dafuk you saying?
Yes, have them open Mutiny in their browser. Send them sats. I do it all the time.
share next time ... i mean: all the time
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It's even easier than downloading a custodial app. Check it out
However getting your first payment to any self-custody wallet requires opening a channel, which comes with fees, so you canβt just download and get a bunch of zaps for 21 sats. Thatβs kind of the magical experience that custodial wallets offer, but it hides the inner workings of the network.
so how munch to open a channel w Mutiny ?
A self-custodian LN wallet for a newbie is no different to a custodian wallet. If you want to self-custody coins you do that on the main chain not on the 2nd layer.
But when fees become more expensive it discourages on-chain activity and pushes more people to layer 2 and custodians.
Thatβs nature
Agreed but if you're at a super busy venue (the Rock Cafe) your waiter probably wont have the time to sit down with you for a crash course of best practices when it comes to Bitcoin, channels, LN and co. What is important is that we were out there all day long pitching Bitcoin to everyone who would listen, paid everywhere with Bitcoin even if they thought they're not accepting Bitcoin while having fun and enjoying ourselves.
If anyone would have turned around to tell me that they want to put their lifesavings into Bitcoin I would sit down with them to discuss self-custody and best practices and if I did 2nd layer wouldn't be a topic for their "wealth" storage.
worst case, they delete the app and the sats get redistributed or burned. Either way a win for everyone else. But if they don't delete the app they might start studying Bitcoin and then they can self-custody as they deem fit.
Youβre not wrong. It just concerns me that people who have been introduced through WoS are going to be in for a rude awakening soon when the app stops working and they canβt get their money out. They might never come back because theyβll assume it was bitcoin that rugged them.
I think Strike is probably the best custodial wallet for no-coiners. It just βfeelsβ more familiar like Venmo.
remember we're not in the US. He'll be fine for now and he was very cool and from Colombia. I had a blast chatting to him in Spanish while we were downing our Mojitos munching nachos. It doesn't matter if he burns his tip, it was just fun and if he doesn't burn them it was a win.
Fuck off
so you self-custody people onto 2nd layer bitcoin? lol
and you know what i don't like? people making money from bitcoin by selling stickers ... fucking parasite
Lol I don't make any money, I literally spend tens of millions of sats giving them away for free https://bitcoin.rocks/stickers
do better than us
I do, it's even easier. Have them open Mutiny in their browser and send them sats. Now they actually own Bitcoin, not an IOU.
browser lol ... you lost em already ... browser is boomer shit
Browsers and PWAs are easier to access and less vulnerable to attack from companies and governments.
true, but ...
convenience > security
... like i said: don't be naive, i don't like this too, but it is like it is
woow you ππ€£
on 2nd layer bitcoin with no clue what a channel is? you're awesome sir.
2nd layer self-custody? lol come back when you understand self-custody of coins.
Thatβs not orange-pilling, fren. Thatβs convincing someone to download an app theyβll probably delete in a week without backing up.
Orange-pilling is giving them a reason to want to HODL and learn the why before the how.
then they do, but it's all i can do ... i can't lecture people at a bar, they give a shit ... but ok, let's be naive and give em fiat instead
No, Iβm just saying we need better options. Zaps are definitely the most impactful, because of LNURL. There are some other possible ways such as using Lightsats, Mutiny gift wallets, or Cashu tokens. We have to get creative with this.
Haha So true Ralf. To much live in their own Bitcoin bubble thinking the world is all technical and gives a shit. 99% donβt care. They live and donβt ask questions π At least you talk with them about how money works. Thats the whole point. People saying different wallet bla bla need to go out in to the real world π
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