I don't "assume" anyone uses proxies

I recommend it, try to make it easier, and talk about its privacy advantages

But I don't assume anyone does it

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also, even if you aren't using proxies, bolt11 invoices still reveal less information about the recipient than monero addresses

this is partly because the sender cannot detect whether or not you are using a proxy

pfft

please

you have no problem presenting LN receiver privacy as if the technical best-case scenario was the default

and you aggressively object and "whatabout monero" when its pointed out virtually nobody is receiving with the technical best-case because of UX

your entire FUD campaign is still just "LN will fix Bitcoin privacy and make Monero obsolete"

which I heard first in 2018.

still waiting....

> you have no problem presenting LN receiver privacy as if the technical best-case scenario was the default

I don't think I do that. I'm just saying LN offers better privacy tools than monero. I don't think most users care about that or use it that way. It's a bit like if yall claimed that jet skis are faster than full sized boats, and I replied, "No they aren't, look at the top speed of a standard boat, it's way higher." And then you reply "But most boat-users go slow on them." So? That has nothing to do with which one is faster. Most people don't care to use max speed and most people don't care to use max stealth. But if you are interested in that (which I recommend), the better option is LN.