To be sufficiently bullish on gold/silver over Bitcoin, one must imagine a bleak mad-max style future where the internet goes out forever, armed men trade heavy rocks with one another to buy cans of tuna, and civilization as we know it ceases to exist.
Reject doomerism. Embrace Bitcoin.
Rejecting doomerism on nostr is near impossible.
The internet is not too different from electricity. Very unlikely it "goes out" forever.
Take some copper and some metal, add some movement, boom, electricity. Take two computers that speak certain protocols and connect them, boom, internet.
That's great and all, but can I get a price prediction please? /s
Internet comms are built to survive nuclear war. Many separate lines, an anti-fragile system.
Agree, not forever and not everywhere. A Carrington level event has not happened recently though
Bitcoin is safe from a Carrington event. Nodes have the history.
Not really worried about nodes, more so miners
Bitcoin has no failsafe for sudden hash-rate loss. Difficulty only adjusts after 2016 blocks, no matter how long that takes.
Probably would have bigger things to worry about...
I have considered this. If 99% of the miners go offline and we are mid change, a week become 2 years. But prices to transact skyrocket. Also so much incentive to get miners back online so people would find a way.
In a mad max doom world, i would think stacks of single malt scotch and cartons of cigs light be more useful for bartering than gold and silver. But i could be wrong about that. Not a doomsday bartering exchange expert 🤷
In a bleak “mad max style” dystopian future, gold/silver retains no value either.
But I get your meaning…..😉
Bitcoiners should forget fiat prices and start orange-pilling normies with the truth: Bitcoin is not an asset, it is a monetary system.
Years ago it occurred to me that there are a lot of measures for intellectual intelligence.
I know some really smart people that spend time worrying about stupid shit. Gold bugs are some of the smartest dumb people.
One of the most valuable skills is how to give “proper risk allocation” to various scenarios.
—When I was younger, I would read survivalist fiction, romanticizing"prepping" having some gold, ammo, tools etc is fun.
Realistically, if power and Internet go down and stay down, gold bugs and bitcoiners are equally fucked. dead.
It’s silly to imagine a scenario like you'd see on TV.
Now think about what's most likely, a post apocalyptic scenario where people are trading goods and services for gold?
—or a scenario like Venezuela, Argentina or Beirut?
Hyper inflation makes it hard but hardly impossible to buy the things you need. gold is great but hardly better (fungible).
If I tried to buy something on the black market, I'd rather have a phone and btc than some gold that I need to
(1)prove is real,
(2)a file to shave some off,
(3)a scale to weigh it and
(4)a security team to keep me from getting robbed or shot.
its really hard for me to keep a straight face when people talk about gold in an internet is down forever scenario.
🧡👊🏻🍻
Not to mention that most doomers hoarding gold right now are 99% sure to be parted from it if the shit hits the fan for real.
In Mad Max mode skills will be worth more than anything.
True. It would be the lead standard.
Not at all. I just expect Bitcoin will become antiquated as technology moves on, leaving gold as the proven stable store of wealth due to it's analogue nature.
How about you just make reasonable threat assessment based on the available data?
you know
without being a fanatic about any of the tools you'll use to keep yourself alive?
Rationalism over Idealism
💯. Brass and lead are the materials that might help in mad max land. Gold and silver are worthless.
Has technology ever reverted back to a more primitive state, outside of very brief and localized episodes, in all of human history? Despite many catastrophic events that have occurred throughout history, like world wars, famines, plagues, etc. I don't think it ever has.
Bitcoins fatal flaw will most likely be that it does not have privacy and the state knows both your home and your wallet address.
Lightning exists.
And still - the state knows the addresses of 99% of Bitcoiners. And as most states will run low on money - they know where to get it. Apart from that, Lightning sucks if used self custodially. So everyone uses custodial wallets - and the providers will bend the knee to the state.
Nuke bombs are a hoax
nostr:nprofile1qqszp5avl025yvj04lvlg0r6exzjx7hx2v232pf273kxg86s00mw0kqpzdmhxue69uhhqatjwpkx2urpvuhx2ue0u8afeh used to say that but he also believed Trump was going to save the country lmao
see, that's some amazingly coherent logic you have there. now you understand what a limited hangout means. oh, this guy said that, but he also said this, so that must be wrong because this was wrong.
Limited hangout on Nostr? To psyop the 50 active users?
I don't have firm beliefs either way on nukes, just recognizing some patterns. The people I've seen say they aren't really have been wrong about a hell of a lot of other stuff.
So is "nuclear" anything... the whole thing is yet more Vatican trickery
ɴᴏ, ᴜꜱɪɴɢ ɴᴜᴄʟᴇᴀʀ ᴅᴇᴄᴀʏ ᴛᴏ ʜᴇᴀᴛ ᴡᴀᴛᴇʀ ᴛᴏ ᴅʀɪᴠᴇ ꜱᴛᴇᴀᴍ ᴛᴜʀʙɪɴᴇꜱ ɪꜱ ʟᴇɢɪᴛ. ɪᴛ ɪꜱ ᴛʀɪᴠɪᴀʟ ᴛᴏ ᴅᴇᴍᴏɴꜱᴛʀᴀᴛᴇ ᴛʜɪꜱ ʙʏ ɢᴇᴛᴛɪɴɢ ᴀ ᴛɪɴʏ ꜱᴀᴍᴘʟᴇ ᴏꜰ ᴍᴏᴅᴇʀᴀᴛᴇ ᴘᴜʀɪᴛʏ ᴜʀᴀɴɪᴜᴍ ᴀɴᴅ ᴘʟᴀᴄᴇ ɪᴛ ɪɴ ᴡᴀᴛᴇʀ ᴀɴᴅ ꜱᴇᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ɪᴛ ʜᴇᴀᴛꜱ ᴛʜᴇ ᴡᴀᴛᴇʀ. ᴀʟꜱᴏ, ꜱᴀᴍᴇ ᴘʀɪɴᴄɪᴘʟᴇ ᴀᴘᴘʟɪᴇꜱ ᴛᴏ ᴛʀɪᴛɪᴜᴍ ᴀɴᴅ ʀᴀᴅɪᴜᴍ ᴛᴜʙᴇꜱ ᴄᴏᴀᴛᴇᴅ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴘʜᴏꜱᴘʜᴏʀꜱ, ᴡʜɪᴄʜ ᴇᴍɪᴛ ʟɪɢʜᴛ ᴘᴇʀᴍᴀɴᴇɴᴛʟʏ, ᴛʜᴇ ᴠᴇʀʏ ꜱᴀᴍᴇ ᴛʜɪɴɢ ʜᴀᴘᴘᴇɴꜱ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴘʜᴏꜱᴘʜᴏʀꜱ ᴍɪxᴇᴅ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴜʀᴀɴɪᴜᴍ. ʟɪᴋᴇʟʏ ᴇᴠᴇɴ ᴏʀᴇ.
Its not. It's just sulphur... yellow cake is sulphur... or fire in metal an alchemical principle. the entire nuclear psyop serves many purposes as in terrorizing the sleeping masses and furthering the supposition around the atom myth. No nucs, and nuclear energy is simply sulphur boiling water. Which we could all do at home. Everything gives off radiation (especially explosions) It all starts with the sun . which is not a big nuclear bomb floating in space. The question is really what is Light?
yellowcake is not sulphur
Composition[edit]
Early yellowcake compositions were not well characterized. As late as 1970, the U.S. Bureau of Mines defined yellowcake simply as the final precipitate from the milling process, presumed to be ammonium diuranate or sodium diuranate. The actual composition varies significantly based on leaching agents and precipitation conditions. Identified compounds in yellowcake include uranyl hydroxide, uranyl sulfate, sodium para-uranate, and uranyl peroxide, along with various uranium oxides. Contemporary yellowcake typically consists of 70% to 90% triuranium octoxide (U3O8) by weight, with other oxides such as uranium dioxide (UO2) and uranium trioxide (UO3) also present.[4]
ᴡʜᴀᴛ ʏᴏᴜ ᴀʀᴇ ɴᴏᴛ ᴡʀᴏɴɢ ᴀʙᴏᴜᴛ ɪꜱ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴅᴏ ᴜꜱᴇ ꜱᴜʟꜰᴜʀɪᴄ ᴀᴄɪᴅ, ᴀꜱ ɪꜱ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴏɴ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴍᴀɴʏ ᴍɪɴᴇʀᴀʟ ʀᴇꜰɪɴɪɴɢ ᴘʀᴏᴄᴇꜱꜱᴇꜱ, ᴇɢ ᴘʜᴏꜱᴘʜᴏʀᴜꜱ ᴀɴᴅ ᴀᴘᴀᴛɪᴛᴇ/ꜰʟᴜᴏʀᴀᴘᴀᴛɪᴛᴇ.
ʟɪᴋᴇʟʏ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴇʀᴏxɪᴅᴇꜱ ᴀʀᴇ ꜰʀᴏᴍ ᴛʜɪꜱ ꜱᴛᴇᴘ, ᴀɴᴅ ʟɪᴋᴇʟʏ ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ ɪꜱ ᴀɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ꜱᴛᴇᴘ ɪɴᴠᴏʟᴠɪɴɢ ꜱᴏᴅɪᴜᴍ ʜʏᴅʀᴏxɪᴅᴇ, ʙᴀꜱᴇᴅ ᴏɴ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴄᴏᴍᴘᴏꜱɪᴛɪᴏɴ
You sound AI... what i understand of this scam was told to me by a friend who holds a PHD in nuclear physics. Not one thing he learned is ised in the design or operation of "nuclear" reactors plants and certainly not bombs. It's all mathematical modelling... with ZERO basis or application in reality. Its nothing but a basis for computation. Just like COVID was just like the THEORY of relativity etc... yellow cake looks like sulphur for a very good reason
ɴᴏᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴀʀᴛɪꜰɪᴄɪᴀʟ ᴀʙᴏᴜᴛ ᴍᴇ ᴀɴʏ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴛʜᴀɴ ʏᴏᴜ
ɪꜰ ɴᴜᴄʟᴇᴀʀ ᴇɴᴇʀɢʏ ɪꜱ ᴀ ꜰʀᴀᴜᴅ ᴀʟꜱᴏ, ᴛʜᴇɴ ᴇxᴘʟᴀɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄʜᴀʀᴀᴄᴛᴇʀɪꜱᴛɪᴄ ꜱɪɢɴꜱ ᴏꜰ ʀᴀᴅɪᴀᴛɪᴏɴ ᴏɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴠɪᴅᴇᴏ ᴏꜰ ᴛʜᴇ ɪɴɪᴛɪᴀʟ ꜱᴛᴀɢᴇꜱ ᴏꜰ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄʜᴇʀɴᴏʙʏʟ ᴍᴇʟᴛᴅᴏᴡɴ. ᴀʟꜱᴏ, ᴇxᴘʟᴀɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ꜱᴛʀᴀɴɢᴇ ʟɪɢʜᴛꜱ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴡᴇʀᴇ ꜱᴇᴇɴ ᴇᴍɪᴛᴛɪɴɢ ɪɴᴛᴏ ᴛʜᴇ ᴀɪʀ ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ʀᴇᴀᴄᴛᴏʀ ɪꜰ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴡᴀꜱɴ'ᴛ ꜱᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴄᴀᴜꜱɪɴɢ ᴛʜᴇ ᴀɪʀ ᴛᴏ ɪᴏɴɪꜱᴇ ꜱᴀᴍᴇ ᴡᴀʏ ᴀꜱ ᴛʜᴇ ꜱᴏʟᴀʀ ᴡɪɴᴅ ᴘʟᴀꜱᴍᴀ ᴀɴᴅ ʀᴀᴅɪᴀᴛɪᴏɴ ᴍᴀᴋᴇꜱ ᴀᴜʀᴏʀᴀᴇ
ᴍᴀɴʏ ᴛʜɪɴɢꜱ ʀᴇꜱᴇᴍʙʟᴇ ᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ᴛʜɪɴɢꜱ ᴡɪᴛʜᴏᴜᴛ ᴀᴄᴛᴜᴀʟʟʏ ʙᴇɪɴɢ ᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ᴛʜɪɴɢꜱ
ᴀʟꜱᴏ ᴇxᴘʟᴀɪɴ ᴛᴏ ᴍᴇ ᴀᴍᴇʀɪᴄɪᴜᴍ ʙᴀꜱᴇᴅ ꜱᴍᴏᴋᴇ ᴅᴇᴛᴇᴄᴛᴏʀꜱ ᴀɴᴅ ᴡʜʏ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴛʀɪɢɢᴇʀ ɢᴇɪɢᴇʀ ᴄᴏᴜɴᴛᴇʀꜱ, ᴡʜʏ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴀʀᴇ ꜱᴜᴄʜ ɢᴏᴏᴅ ʀᴀɴᴅᴏᴍ ɴᴜᴍʙᴇʀ ꜱᴇᴇᴅ ᴛʀɪɢɢᴇʀꜱ ᴀɴᴅ ᴡʜᴀᴛ ɪꜱ ɪɴꜱɪᴅᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ʟɪᴛᴛʟᴇ ɢʟᴀꜱꜱ ᴘʜᴏꜱᴘʜᴏʀꜱ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴀʀᴇ ᴜꜱᴇᴅ ᴏɴ ꜰᴀɴᴄʏ ᴍɪʟɪᴛᴀʀʏ ꜱᴛʏʟᴇ ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜ ꜰᴀᴄᴇꜱ, ᴛʜᴇ ᴏʟᴅ ꜱᴄʜᴏᴏʟ *ᴜʀᴀɴɪᴜᴍ* ʙᴀꜱᴇᴅ ᴢɪɴᴄ ꜱᴜʟꜰɪᴅᴇ ᴘᴀꜱᴛᴇ ɢʟᴏᴡ ᴍᴀʀᴋᴇʀꜱ ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴇᴀʀʟʏ ᴅᴀʏꜱ ᴏꜰ ᴛʜᴇ ꜱᴄɪᴇɴᴄᴇ ᴏꜰ ʀᴀᴅɪᴏᴀᴄᴛɪᴠɪᴛʏ ꜱᴄɪᴇɴᴄᴇ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴇxᴘʟᴀɪɴ ᴛᴏ ᴍᴇ ᴇxᴀᴄᴛʟʏ ʜᴏᴡ ʏᴏᴜʀ ꜰʀɪᴇɴᴅ ɪꜱ ꜱᴏ ꜱᴜʀᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ɪᴛ'ꜱ ᴀʟʟ ᴀ ꜰʀᴀᴜᴅ, ɪᴛ'ꜱ ᴏɴᴇ ᴛʜɪɴɢ ꜰᴏʀ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ꜰᴀᴋɪɴɢ ʙᴏᴍʙ ᴛᴇꜱᴛꜱ ᴀɴᴅ ʜɪʀᴏꜱʜɪᴍᴀ ᴀɴᴅ ɴᴀɢᴀꜱᴀᴋɪ, ʙᴜᴛ ɪᴛ'ꜱ ǫᴜɪᴛᴇ ᴀɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴛᴏ ᴅɪꜱᴘᴜᴛᴇ ᴀɴ ᴇɴᴛɪʀᴇ ꜱᴇᴄᴛɪᴏɴ ᴏꜰ ɪɴᴅᴜꜱᴛʀʏ, ᴛʜᴀᴛ ʜᴀꜱ ʙᴇᴇɴ ꜱᴇʟʟɪɴɢ ᴘʀᴏᴅᴜᴄᴛꜱ ᴀɴᴅ ᴍᴀᴛᴇʀɪᴀʟꜱ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴇxᴘʟᴏɪᴛ ʀᴀᴅɪᴀᴛɪᴏɴ.
ᴀʟꜱᴏ, ɪᴛ ᴅᴏᴇꜱ ɴᴏᴛ ʟᴏᴏᴋ ʟɪᴋᴇ ꜱᴜʟᴘʜᴜʀ ᴛᴏ ᴍʏ ᴇʏᴇꜱ, ᴍᴀʏʙᴇ ʏᴏᴜ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ɴᴇᴠᴇʀ ᴇᴠᴇɴ ꜱᴇᴇɴ ꜱᴜʟᴘʜᴜʀ. ɢᴀʀᴅᴇɴ ꜱʜᴏᴘꜱ ꜱᴇʟʟ ɪᴛ. ɪᴛ ɪꜱ ꜱʟɪɢʜʟʏ ɢʀᴇᴇɴɪꜱʜ ʏᴇʟʟᴏᴡ ʙᴜᴛ ɴᴏᴛ ᴀꜱ ɢʀᴇᴇɴ ᴀꜱ ʏᴇʟʟᴏᴡᴄᴀᴋᴇ ʟᴏᴏᴋꜱ ᴛᴏ ᴍʏ ᴇʏᴇꜱ, ᴀɴᴅ ʏᴇꜱ, ɪ ᴀᴍ ᴀɴ ᴀʀᴛɪꜱᴛ, ᴀɴᴅ ɪ ᴋɴᴏᴡ ᴀ ɢʀᴇᴇɴ ᴄᴀꜱᴛ ᴡʜᴇɴ ɪ ꜱᴇᴇ ɪᴛ. ᴄʟᴀꜱꜱɪᴄ ᴄᴏᴏʟ ᴡʜɪᴛᴇ ᴘʜᴏꜱᴘʜᴏʀ ᴄᴏᴀᴛᴇᴅ ꜰʟᴜᴏʀᴇꜱᴄᴇɴᴛ ʟᴀᴍᴘꜱ ᴀʀᴇ ᴀ ꜱɪᴍɪʟᴀʀ ᴅɪʀᴛʏ ɢʀᴇᴇɴ ᴄᴀꜱᴛ ᴀꜱ ᴡᴇʟʟ.
Nonsense. you can tell AI by the density of its responses and neutrality when being insulted... nothing personal.
Chernobyl is yet the best example of the fraud... minus Fukushima (don't get me started)a no-go zone that is supposed to be deadly yet the result of the "government restriction" nature has flourished there and do have the people who refused to leave-- AI
ᴡᴇʟʟ, ᴛʜᴀᴛ'ꜱ ᴊᴜꜱᴛ ʟɪᴋᴇ, ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴏᴘɪɴɪᴏɴ, ᴍᴀɴ.
ꜱɪɴᴄᴇ ʏᴏᴜ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ɴᴏ ᴇᴠɪᴅᴇɴᴄᴇ ᴛᴏ ʙᴀᴄᴋ ᴜᴘ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴀᴄᴄᴜꜱᴀᴛɪᴏɴꜱ ɪ ᴡɪʟʟ ʀᴀɪꜱᴇ ʏᴏᴜ "ɪ ᴀᴍ ᴀʟʀᴇᴀᴅʏ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʏᴘɪɴɢ ᴛʜɪꜱ ᴜꜱɪɴɢ ᴍʏ ꜰʟᴇꜱʜʟᴇꜱꜱ ʙᴏɴʏ ꜰɪɴɢᴇʀꜱ."
There we are... stop using AI when responding. It might be quick and make you seem clever but your stilting your intellectual development. Nuclear energy is such a scam that now to power the 6G shit all of a sudden it wont be deadly at all, if fact they will build tiny ones and put them in those f.... data centres which are popping up like mushrooms after rain while you (minus your bot) and i deal with "blackouts" more chicanery. Godspeed
ʏᴇꜱ, ᴏꜰ ᴄᴏᴜʀꜱᴇ ɪᴛ ᴡɪʟʟ ʙᴇ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜꜱᴇ ᴏꜰꜰ AI ᴅᴀᴛᴀ ᴄᴇɴᴛᴇʀꜱ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴛʜᴇ ꜱᴋʏ ʟɪɢʜᴛꜱ ᴜᴘ ɪɴ ᴀʀɪᴢᴏɴᴀ ᴀꜰᴛᴇʀ ᴀɴ ᴏʙꜱᴇʀᴠᴇᴅ ꜱᴏʟᴀʀ ꜰʟᴀʀᴇ. ɴᴏᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴛᴏ ᴅᴏ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ꜱᴜɴ. ꜱᴏʟᴀʀ ᴡɪɴᴅ ᴀɴᴅ ᴄᴏʀᴏɴᴀʟ ᴍᴀꜱꜱ ᴇᴊᴇᴄᴛɪᴏɴꜱ ᴀʀᴇ ᴀ ᴘꜱʏᴏᴘ. ᴛʜᴇ ᴇᴀʀᴛʜ ɪꜱ ꜰʟᴀᴛ.
ɪɴ ꜰᴀᴄᴛ, ᴛʜᴇ ᴇᴀʀᴛʜ ɪꜱ ᴅɪꜱᴄ ꜱʜᴀᴘᴇᴅ, ʜᴇʀᴇ ɪꜱ ᴀ ʟɪᴠᴇ ꜰᴇᴇᴅ:
ᴀʀᴇ ᴡᴇ ʜᴀᴠɪɴɢ ꜰᴜɴ ʏᴇᴛ?
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If the internet is gone forever, gold won’t save us either.
Until then, Bitcoin.
