Its certainly not people like you.
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You mean not people who ask questions?
Asking questions and having open dialogue is completely different than immediately siren-calling for the elimination of The Left.
Don't be disingenuous. They spent two days straight saying shit like that. Did you as well?
I would consider myself somwhat center left probably. And not I am defnitly not a person that is on the search whom to blame. I mostly try to figure out what actions could maby lead to more consens finding. And my first interpretation of the post you are reacting to here, was a question to ask for consensus.
I really think, that in a heated discussion (and maby most discussions today are heated sadly) one focuses only on the differences of opinions.
But I think in a functional democracy it would be most important to have a general understanding, in which topic there is consens. Since I am sure there are topics people from the left to the right are consenting on. And finding this common ground is maby just the basic to start a discussion between different oppinions.
A productive and constructive discussion needs to have a common ground. Could be a com on ground that everyone respects the freedom of speech. In a way, that no one is forced to listen to me, as no one is allowed to silence me.
Also most can maby be ok, that we should focus on messages within a discussion. More than focusing on the messenger. Otherwise every discussion will be nonsense pure subjectivity.
Than maby a place where less can consent, but maby still enough could be that I need to accept people with different oppinions. Otherwise there is no sense to ask for acceptance of my different oppinion.
I think whoever could sign such a basic social contract, could participate in a countructive discussion.
That all sounds great but honestly, TL;DR. I read it, but it's the same thing everyone else is saying....today.
3 days ago The Right was ready to lynch every person not on their side, so every single bit of what you said goes right out the window.
And now I see HODL and the rest of those fools on the podcast broadcasting literal stochastic terrorism to their listeners, as if it cannot be recognized on its face. 'Gee, anything could happen, I mean shucks, who knows 😉'
So no. Just, no.
Just no to what? Just no that people with a big follow should not try to focus on being part of a constructive force? Or no to that this is not happening yet?
The second I totally agree. Many people seem very reactive instead of activly providing ideas on how to come together.
Calling for the murder of anyone on The Left without recognizing the destruction of those they support is honestly beyond the pale.
It's a filthy line of thinking, or you know, literal fucking fascism.
Maby I did not see this. I would never motivate any murder. I see nonviolence as the baseline of democratic discours. Participants of society need the savety to speak freely without having to fear harm.
To me human rights are non-negotiable and have to count for every person, independent of race, party, religion, language or origin.
Human rights allow public justice, where every person can be held accountable to written law. This is all a society needs in order to make criminal activity unprofitable. We can change laws, when there are loopholes. But I could not accept authority, which is disrespecting my human rights.