It's incredible how weak and selfish Trump actually is.

There's zero reason to negotiate anything with Iran. Israel has overwhelming firepower superiority over Iran – all Iran can do is hit Israeli civilian targets at random. Bomb them until they are forced to unconditionally surrender, or there just isn't a government left to surrender in the first place.

I think what's really going on is Trump is pissed off that Israel was getting all the credit for a brilliant, overwhelming, military success. So he forced a ceasefire and negotiations to give himself a role. There's a high chance this leads to the death of millions of Israeli's through Iran successfully rebuilding their nuclear program. But Trump will probably be dead by then.

Finally, give Israel the $6 billion in frozen funds to pay for rebuilding Israeli property destroyed by Iranian missiles. Zero reason to give Iran a penny. Heck, Israel hasn't even destroyed their oil and gas industry: they've still got plenty of revenue. Why do they need yet more billions?

Ukraine would be a much better use of aid money.

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You don't think Israel gets enough billions?

Let him cook. Less people dead is always better. Can't we agree on that or are you determined to cheer death on people based on the location they were born?

"Less people dead is always better.”

I explained quite clearly how Trump's actions are likely to lead to a lot more deaths of good people.

You are displaying high time preference. You want to stop the killing right now, even though it's of people who should die, and don't give a damn about the money term consequences.

Sounds like your definition of "good people" is a specific group?

Obviously we'd rather Israeli's survive and members of the Iranian regime die.

How about everyone lives? WTF is wrong with you?

What I think he's getting at is: what if that's not an option?

What makes Iranians deserving of death? They are people like you and me.

Thank you Todd for your clear indications of what the Davos community is intending to do next and how much Trump's particular gang of thieves is a thorn in their side.

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I'm sure you would be a better negotiator

-“Trump will probably be dead by then.” Interesting thing to say

-Israeli has “overwhelming firepower” thanks to the United States. You can take a seat

-I agree if we should strip all Israeli aid money. Giving it to Ukraine is another convo

Trump is old. It'll likely take Iran another 10+ years to rebuild their nuclear program and build a nuke. There's nothing "interesting" about observing that obvious fact.

Hmm, I thought Iran has always been 6 months away from Nukes for the last 30 years. That makes your comment more “interesting.”

Iran's nuclear program has been repeatedly attacked and sabotaged. They have in fact been close to get nuclear weapons multiple times. Fortunately, previous efforts to stop them did in fact delay the program significantly, over and over again.

Facts and propaganda are not the same thing.

Just like with Obama's aid to Egypt after the Arab Spring, the American aid goes to paying immense debt to irresponsible (or deliberately malicious) banks that lend money to corrupt regimes.

The banks know those regimes will probably fail to pay their debt. They know those regimes will either go to war, collapse into humanitarian crisis, or both. They know America will step in and "send aid": pay the debt + interest.

or he just want the nobel peace price at any cost

Do you forget Iran has hypersonic missiles ? There is no defense for that.

Iran does not have hypersonic missiles.

"Hypersonic" isn't just about the speed of the missile. It's about the maneuverability of the missile at hypersonic speeds. Iran doesn't have any missiles with significant maneuverability at hypersonic speeds, which means Israel can intercept them in most situations.

Also, Iran just doesn't have that many missiles, and Israel was able to quickly take out the launchers. At worst Israel can just absorb the damage.

We’ve all seen the videos. Nothing was able to stop them, no matter what your masters want you to pretend.

Nice try. Now show me a video of them intercepting them during their final stage.

Funny thing is he’d kick your ass at his age.

Israel or Ukraine, neither country needs American funding or involvement

They were definitely not getting all the credit tho? The weapons supply and financial aid by the US is definitely what kept them afloat during these events after the past couple of years. It would be unrealistic to assume Iran will just lie down and take it while not pausing extremely high (albeit short term) risk to surrounding gulf countries and the military bases US they host, that besides the fact that probably most of trump voting base did not want him to involve the US in another major war in the middle east. I do understand that his narcissistic ass was probably craving for credit, but it sounds a bit simplistic to assume that was the only/ number one reason for his action

Stick to Bitcoin, not spam, bro

I don’t have to like Trump to say HE FUCKING SAVED ISRAEL FROM BEING COMPLETELY HUMILIATE AND THEIR BIGGEST CITIES TURNED INTO GAZA 2.0

Israel sucks from the American tit. When it says stop the horseshit , that means stop it. Israel does not exist without the USA's permission, so play nice.

Trump saved Khamenei's life, and the Iranian regime, by preventing Israel from simply assassinating him when they could, and coercing Israel into an idiotic ceasefire.

Now Khamenei has issued a fatwa against Trump, calling for his death.

Trump is a weak-willed loser, who might very well pay for cowardice with his life.

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Oohhh... for certain this Peter Todd fellow is a warmonger.

I please volunteer your children to fight in these wonderful wars.