I'd like to know as well, do these people extrapolate that if blocks aren't*always* full then Bitcoin has no long term value? Miners seem to think otherwise or the hash rate wouldn't be at 950 EH/s

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I believe we need empty mempools to shrink the large centralized mining operations and grow the small decentralized miners.

I hope tx fees stay flat for a LONG ASS TIME. Even still, we face a severe uphill battle to wrest control of bitcoin away from the mining pool cartels. It's gonna be a hard fight. Let's stop wasting our energy hand wringing over fee rates.

I actually agree with exactly this. Take advantage, open channels, consolidate utxo's... And maybe it's an opportunity to spread the hash. Fees are down, demand for miners goes down, price for miners goes down, more opportunities for others to get into mining.

The ASIC miner is the AK-47 of the digital age. We need more people mining, not just hash rate.