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Everything eventually but tbh our biggest priority is #damus android and notedeck
Thanks for speedy response, Vanessa!
We’re waiting for the #announcementofannouncement, then.
Damus was the best iOS client. It no longer is. While I agree that Android and desktop are worthy efforts, why deprioritize the development of what you already had a leg up on?
What do you think iOS damus needs to prioritize?
Ignoring high time preference, trivial complaints ❤️
Ah yes, those pesky end users and their silly needs. But plz pay for our subscription, am I right?
Damus needs to put the user experience first. I regularly encounter this for instance (screenshot below). Damus can’t load the profile info while Nostur does it with no issues). Damus needs to be great for enabling creators to publish content and media and great for enabling users to interact with each other. Content/media is everything. It drives user activity and engagement. Here’s my reply to Will with some other comments.
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I've been supporting the Damus+ dev forever.
Still waiting...
I decided to go back and improve foundational tech instead of incrementally adding features. it may look line “deprioritizing development” but only if you think development means adding badges and gif keyboards.
In the past year we have created the fastest embedded nostr relay/db which powers our note opengraph previews, android/notedeck, ios profile and note search. This tech will enable damus to have note stats without relying on centralized services like other clients. Soon it will enable a completely offline and speedy experience on ios. We pioneered image blurhashes and image metadata so damus and other clients don’t have a janky feed when scrolling. We added the limit feature to nostr queries so that you don’t have to pull down thousands of notes when querying. We added zaps, reactions and reposts. We added command results so notes can actually be saved to relays reliably. The reason you can even load nostr notes on your phone is likely due to the optimizations we have made to the protocol and will continue to do so. But sure, knock us because we don’t have a gif keyboard.
low time preference. I like it.
So how about that gif keyboard then
I really admire your software design sensibilities and priorities. I also think it’s smart that you still try to do things you think are fun and interesting
And I’ve been here for just over a year watching you create all of those things. That is what captured me when I joined Nostr and why I’m still here.
I feel very privileged watching creators create. I love seeing the collaboration that occurs - the openness, the sharing of knowledge and skill sets.
I’m loving the Damus/Nostr rabbit hole into which I stumbled. 😊😊
I can live without GIFs until you’re ready to travel that road.
My original post was t specifically about any specific client or person, but since Vanessa replied about Damus I decided to lean in. You and your team have done incredible things for Nostr. But where I used to exclusively use Damus, I now barely ever use it at all. Im not the only user either as I’ve heard that directly from several people. Does that not concern you? The constant app freezing and crashing, the terrible navigation between threads and replies, the failure to load users’ profile data, the failure to show which notes are being replied to, the god awful video player, and I can go on. The gif keyboard comment I make is an ongoing thing I like to bring it up because it’s such a simple fucking thing that every user wants and would use. It’s as basic as image uploads. When I started using Damus you seemed to care about some of these things that users actually needed, but now I don’t see that from Damus. The protocol level stuff you do is no doubt crucial so thank you for that. But Damus is hurting. Users post content and media and interact with each other, and Damus is not great for that.
Like I said the original post wasn’t about Damus. There are a lot of people on here with their heads up in the clouds about some imaginary level of Nostr adoption that will never happen if user needs are the priority, and it will probably look different than everyone imagines anyway. So it’s better to build onto what exists and give existing users what they need and ask for. Existing users know the end user experience here better than anyone.
Nah. It’s still the best.
The low time preference wisdom of Damus development is out of your league. Go play with something shiny.
On iOS, I switched to Nostur and have never looked back.
Zero crashes, zero follow lists lost, zero notes sent to the ether, faster, better usability and features, etc.
It's true true that Will is lagging behind on features. He even refused to add the backdoors we requested.