The largest difference between monero and bitcoin is clear to me. It is the same difference that any privacy coin has (there are far better ones than monero). Bitcoin emphasizes understandability and transparency at the base layer.

Novel encryption features are a risk, bitcoin uses only well known and battle hardened cryptography. Obscure forms of cryptography are no guarantee of privacy. Layers above BTC layer 1 can be as complex as needed, and they won't affect the value of bitcoin itself.

This is a battle between classes, and between rulers and surfs, between incompetent moralizing technocrats that wield a monopoly on the use of force and the productive family that has little choice but to yield possession of their accumulated life energy. To add obscurity to the protocol is to give ammunition to the media-technocrat-intelligence cartel to scare people away from it. It is to invite the black market and create the false perception that the purpose of bitcoin is to skirt the law, avoid "fair share" taxation and increase dangerous crime. Regardless if that is true, it flushes any privacy coin into the mental sewers of the majority.

To win the minds of the people, you must first win the minds of those they respect. Unfortunately, that requires cooperation with the statists, and we have seen as of late, even one of the biggest statists (Kennedy) has found a refuge under the wing of bitcoin.

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Yes, but as a whole package Monero is apex of privacy coins. Long list of problems with Zcash, Dero, ARR, etc. that directly or indirectly call them into question. Like trusted setups, dev tax, optional privacy, the list goes on.

Just ask the DNMs what they are using more and more. True skin in the game and market test.

Obscure forms of cryptography? Monero is built on established cryptography from the 80s. L2s have their own unique trade offs. Ecash? Custodial. Liquid? Permissioned. Lightning? Complex UX to operate completely sovereign and semi-private. And many others.

If you are scared the media/technocrats/politicians/majority can kill it by calling it mean names it has completely failed at being unstoppable money. If you need statists to win you miss the main point of Bitcoin. PERMISSIONLESS.

Explain the monero blockchain to me in two paragraphs, such that I can write a program in an afternoon that walks through it and verify the total quantity and that I solely own my wallet balance.

How would that help?

You don't even take advantage of your own public blockchains transparent simple math ledger.

Every block do you make sure yourself that [all inputs] = [all outputs] yourself? Or do you just run a node like Monero users? In practice your argument falls apart.

Trivia: Did you know there was a hidden inflation bug in Bitcoin that only an anonymous user knew about? They couldve easily exploited it, but very luckily they were an honest actor who secretly let the devs know (who couldve also decided to exploit it). If they did exploit it, how would detectable inflation help after the fact? It wouldnt. It would be catastrophic for bitcoin and attackers have first mover advantage. There is no good solution to fix an exploited inflation bug without hurting other users.

https://bitcoincore.org/en/2018/09/20/notice/

www.coindesk.com/markets/2018/09/21/the-latest-bitcoin-bug-was-so-bad-developers-kept-its-full-details-a-secret

Its fundamental to bitcoin, and yes I do. Pointing out bugs in the past is focusing on a strength, not a weakness. If privacy turns out to be necessary in the future, bitcoin can be upgraded and only if the concensus rule is met.

Every 10 minutes you are personally reading the blockchain and making sure all input and all outputs are equal to 0? You are either lying or must get no sleep sir.

You realize the only thing that saved bitcoin from that inflation bug was the good samaritan nature of a single anonymous user right? No amount of transparency could've stopped him from exploiting it.

Well, Bitcoin ever hardforking is a longshot, and if you need private transactions *today*, not in some hypothetical future, that is what Monero is for.

You're imagining some bad argument and dancing around the burning strawman.

Yes I do verify the blockchain every 10 minutes. Yes I do it personally. I verify the blockchain by reviewing the source code of the version of software that collects the blocks and verifies it. To do it 'personally' I guess you mean that I do it manually, and why the F would anyone do that?

So, then you are just letting a node run and paying no mind to the blockchain. Exactly like a Monero user would.

You are making my point for me. You are not taking advantage of Bitcoin's transparency. There is no material difference.

If there was an implementation bug exploited you would have no clue until it was already way too late.

I never said that you can't use monero. Be my guest. I'm only saying that bitcoin has an entirely different purpose and an entirely different strategy, and that's why it will eventually eat everything.