One of the biggest barriers to adoption and long-term retention on Nostr, in my opinion, is key management. Public/private key pairs are powerful, but they’re also unfamiliar and intimidating to most people. It’s simply not how the majority of users are used to signing in or thinking about accounts.

That’s why the diVine Keycast login system is so well done. It introduces a key management layer that feels familiar, usernames and passwords, while still operating within the Nostr ecosystem. For most people, this dramatically lowers the learning curve and removes friction at the moment it matters most: getting started.

True sovereign users may never choose this approach, and that’s fine. But millions of everyday users will. And that’s okay too. If we want Nostr to grow beyond early adopters, we need paths that meet people where they are, without forcing everyone to become a cryptography expert on day one.

In short, I'm a fan and I hope that other applications adopt similar technologies in the future. As long as we have various user options and give users the choice to be sovereign, I still believe that we're on the correct path forward.

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As we say when using 2D animation software— layers rock!!

I think it’s much less of an issue than we give it credit. The biggest obstacle will always be content and people

It depends on the type of the app. Nostr shall not compete first as a social media.

As an other stuff-app, it benefits already from lower userbase, and other kinds if can be reused.

But definitely, we need more data generally, and more apps to leverage eachother.

I guess building on eachothers work can be the biggest measurable benefit from adoption perspective.

Cooperation instead of competition.

Just my 2 sats.

The key pair was really easy to get my head around.

Public key is a unique account identifier, private key is your password.

Google has no problem remembering your private key if you don't care about privacy or whatever.

The real issue is that people don't understand how to use social media without algorithms deciding what they see.

And that conformist influencers get more v4v copy pasting crap from Twitter than artists get for their actual art work.

If that culture changed (i believe it will as nostr grows the twitter celebrities will all become far less relevant)

It's not so much understanding the key pairs, it's securing them. People lose keys and burn keys. The average person struggles here. Giving them a management tool helps with that.

The absence of algorithms is both a blessing and a curse. It's great, because people can become their own algorithms and choose their content streams. It's bad because user discovery and content discovery suffer immensely.

Algorithms are not bad. What's bad about them is when they're closed or forced upon users without choice.

For the average normie letting google remember it is enough.

Better key management options are required, but I don't see anyone making new accounts saying they lost their keys.

People mostly just vanish I assume because they didn't get the traction they expected or they couldn't find people worth following and got bored.

Lack of algorithms is the best and worst part about nostr, it's a learning curve after being programmed to rely on them.

Really need one that shows all the new accounts to each other so need people can find each other.

People will share an introduction note, but never check the hashtag themselves.

I've seen a several dozen people lose their keys over the years. Some people multiple times. It happens. And in the beginning days, it happens a lot. Many of us have been here three years now, but those early days were rough for some.

We have a lot of work to do with user and content discovery still. It's slowly getting better.

the nsec is simply a password that can’t be changed. what’s so hard about that?

People lose passwords and reset passwords all of the time. It's not the terminology. It's the usability.

they really do. feature not a bug 😂

not sure its keys preventing the kind of eternal September numbers some want. the social climate is changing.

It's all part of the user experience package. You'll see. It's coming.

🎅 🎁

I think most people prefer systems that feel familiar, similar to traditional social media platforms. For those who aren’t familiar with cryptography, this aspect can be a real barrier. If developers don’t find simpler solutions or create more user-friendly paths to adoption, it could become a serious challenge. We have to consider that many people value convenience and ease of use -they may be curious, but they’re also often unwilling to deal with complex setups.

Absolutely. Familiarity will help with success.

I agree Derek. Thanks for sharing this. I was not aware of this project and will definitely look into it.

Right now nostr:nprofile1qyxhwumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmvqy8hwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnddaksqgylga0vtr9pg9sn0u9kzps7zan32t7d5jq8f5emrtep6jfdntxfgc0xf7nx allows users to backup their nsec by downloading it to a file encrypted with NIP-44 but something like this looks promising and more scalable.

Oh. I am going to check out your app and NIP proposal that I just saw. Thanks for commenting. 🤓🤓🤓

Bear in mind I'm in alpha 😉 but about to onboard the first restaurant

We need a layer over it for dummies, agreed