My dog is old and deteriorating. The last few days I have been nursing a sudden pain episode that doesn't seem to be caused by anything other than further deterioration of her joints. I have had very little sleep as she wouldn't leave me alone, panting and clingy. If the pain meds don't bring back good days, or if there are more bad days than good, I'm going to have to decide to put her down.

It feels like far too much power for me to decide which day she dies. But this is how it works for most dogs most of the time. I knew she would get old and die, but it is so much worse that I have to choose when.

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I'm very sorry it's truly one of the worst experiences

I've to did it with Wally a few years ago... I read somewhere a comment of a veterinary that said that for a familiar to stay with them till the last moment is better for them to not feel anxiety nor unnecessary stress... True isn't something easy to do, but may be better as letting them alone instead

Abrazos. 🫂

Truly one of the toughest times. Hang in there Mike. Hope she feels better.

An old dog of mine had joint issues later in life and this supplement called flexpet did wonders.

My 14 year old pug and I are right with you 🫂

Aaaargh, fucking hell man😕. Mine is exactly the same, she's an old girl. She has arthritis is her legs and is getting worse. She's now on the strongest kind of doggie pain killers available, when they stop working🤷🏻‍♂️. DREADING the day. As sad as it is, you'll know when the time is ready. Stay strong my friend🫂.

Probably not at the same state, but I saw huge improvements on my 15 year old joints with this glucosamine tablets + CBD. The thing is that it needs to build up for at least a couple weeks. Good luck

I've often wondered why God chose to let us live longer than our dogs. I think it's to strengthen us. I'm sorry for what you're going through. It's hard and decision is hard, but the best thing you can do is take care of the pup and yourself. Dogs know.

Yeah my old dog is getting to that stage. He got hit by a car about a year ago which didn't help him.

When the time comes to let him go, I'd like to be able to do it myself. I don't want to bundle him into the car & take him somewhere unfamiliar, especially if he's in pain.

I'm still not sure how to do it peacefully for him.

The best bet, if possible, is to get a vet to your house where the dog will feel calm and familiar. I've been there😕🫂.

This was part of the problem for us. I felt like if we were going to do it, I damn well owe him the dignity and love to do it with my own hands. But at least in the US, that's not possible without resorting to more dangerous (and potentially painful) methods. 😢

Yeah that's my motivation + thinking.

I've got some really strong pain meds but he'd need to eat them. His last meal would be steak laced with Oxy.

Not a bad way to go for a dog obsessed with food. I'd still prefer an an injection with a known & painless outcome.

Not sure of the options where you live, but we found someone who did in-home pet euthanasia so our girl could pass peacefully at home. She was surrounded by her favorite toys. No stress and a belly full of treats. After everything she gave us, it was the least we could do for her. Highly recommend.

Think of it like this - you have power over reducing her pain .. but you must exercise diligently !

Btw - faith (scriptures) comes in handy in such dilemmas . If you have heard of 'Bhagvad Gita ' - it says - Body is like clothes - it must perish - the soul however , never dies ..

Quote > As a person sheds worn-out garments and wears new ones, likewise, at the time of death, the soul casts off its worn-out body and enters a new one.

Link to original verse with translation..

https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/chapter/2/verse/22

We went through this a bit over a year ago. (This might be a contrary opinion to most, and only you can decide what's best for you and your loved one! ) I felt exactly the same way: It was so much worse to have to choose.

We decided NOT to go the euthanasia route, and at one point we realized we did not want to play god and choose exactly when he would die. We wavered back and forth for weeks and even once scheduled an in-home appointment, but ended up cancelling only an hour before. We just couldn't do it. Once we made that ultimate decision, a massive burden was lifted off of our souls, and we could enjoy what was left of his last days. Whatever time we had left. That morning was one of the best he had in weeks, and he was almost as active and alert as he was before the sickness. A beautiful day that would have been lost forever. For us, the certainty of death was lifted, and whatever was to come was left to fate. We had an amazing breakfast, called in to work, and sat with him the entire day in the grass, reading, watching. Knowing that every single minute from this moment forward was truly a gift.

Five weeks later he died in my arms in the sunshine on our front porch. And still I swear I wouldn't trade a minute of those painful five weeks for anything.

The weeks in between were literally one of the hardest times in my entire life. We didn't sleep much, and yes, we saw him often in pain. But we kept him comfortable as possible (skip the meds they can make things worse, and look into RSO oil instead), fed him his favorite foods for every single meal, helped him to the bathroom. Loved him for everything he had given to us and also for the lessons he was continuing to teach us every single day up to his very last. There were good days mixed in between, some golden moments, moments that I will remember forever. He was never scared, not near as much as we were of losing him. The last few nights he slept literally in my arms, breathing heavy and we knew our time was getting short. The last morning, when I rubbed my red eyes as the sun rose, he looked back at me with a look I had never seen before. I knew it was time. It was not a look of fear, it was just knowing, understanding– that perhaps for the first time he knew what we had seen coming for weeks.

I swear I never would have been able to forgive myself if I had done it sooner. For me, for us, and I believe– for him, it was exactly as it was meant to be.

Strength to you and your family. 💔

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I don’t know you. But just wanted to say that that was beautiful.

I still have my dog’s ashes. I’m actually looking at the container they gave us right now. I just haven’t been able to let go of them. I plan to leave some here in the backyard when we move. It’s the only home she ever knew. But the rest I plan to take with us and plant in our next (hopefully “forever”) home. It’s been a year and a half and I still think about her every day.

I like your idea of planting a tree with a place to sit nearby. Even in death I just want her to always be around. I think she would want the same.

Dogs, man. 😢

❤️ I'm really glad you got that 5 weeks. This is so beautiful, can't stop tearing kind. I'm really sorry for your loss. My previous dog Peanut had spleen cancer, they said they can't do anything and once a week he would collapse and we would rush him to the vet. His appetite deteriorated and eventually we gave him anything he would love which included butter cookies. Eventually in the last 2 weeks we decided to go ahead with the surgery to remove the spleen but he could not recover, and he was in so much of pain. My sister decided it was time, and we were all there around him, but I think we were forever heartbroken that day. My current boy Fido has CKD touching stage 3 - but i would never ever make that call so I am doing everything i can, for as long as I can for him to be happy. He has been my happy moments and side kick for so long. Dogs are so innocent, sweet and loving - when they age and fall sick, its just heartbreaking. Thank you for sharing.

oh no! 💔💔 I hope she gets better soon. Normally when they can't move and can't pee properly anymore, you'd know.

My boy is 12, and this year has been crazy - he was diagnosed with chronic kidney disease (CKD) stage 2 which has now progressed to stage 3, but still a very slow decline and i am grateful. I take him to the vet every week for his subcut IV, but because he hates dogs and loves cats its always very eventful session. He has never been sick until now - but this year has been kinds of problems from hematoma, mites.

Once a month he has has muscle cramps and I give him hot massage every night. I also give him muscle supplements that comes with pain killers and have been driving him everyday to the park for a week so that he doesn't over use his foreleg.

His food is also home cooked (always have been) and now i add cod liver oil, and 3x a week chia seeds, spirulina, folic acid. Than and his daily kidney supplements.

Its been tiring, very costly, but he is a happy boy. He wakes up happy every morning. He plays with the cats, runs after the birds, assumes all strangers are friends, all dogs are enemies. He is very clingy these days. If I could give him 1-2 years more of just being happy, I'm more than happy.

Have you done any blood works to see what's wrong ?

My dog also assumes all strangers are friends, and all dogs are enemies!

They didn't do blood work, or even x-rays because her x-rays from 4 years ago were so bad they told me back then that euthenasia wouldn't be unreasonable, and that x-rays now would certainly be at least as bad and there is nothing new to learn from doing them. But she still has mostly good days. Sure, it is hard for her to squat and poop, but she does it (mostly on one leg now) and she poop-walks before it has all come out. She can't run, but she walks down the street and back with me... usually very slowly on the way back. And she eagerly comes out to the sheep when I move the sheep ... she is most alive and happy out near the sheep. She wants to ride in the truck everywhere I go, and I always bring her so she can enjoy the sights and smells without having to walk. I have a ramp and I back up to the deck so she walks only a slight incline to get in and out of the truck. But most of the time she just holds the floor down, sleeping near me in my home office.

If she can't toilet herself, that will be enough for me to take her in.

I'm really glad you gave her the 4 years without a doubt, she sounds like a very happy girl, I'm sure she wears a big goofy smile proudly with you around. You are her safe zone, and for as long as she has to live, she knows that she can be happy and safe with you around and that's everything ❤️

I’ve had to do it three times (yeah, I’m old) and it’s sad and painful, but your gentle, caring presence when it’s time is the last gift you can give them. Blessings.

killing somebody isn't immoral.

bringing somebody into this world is.

So are you saying its okay to kill whores, kikes, and sodomites?

i believe that if it is OK for governments to kill then it is OK for individuals as well

i hope euthanasia for humans becomes legal in US before i am as old and sick as your dog.

the only reason it isn't is because of the fucking Christian shit eaters who should all be killed.

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It is legal in NZ. Parliament voted 61-59 (barely in favor) requiring a referendum, and the people voted 65.1% in favor

https://archive.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2020/referendums-results.html

Most of the organisations against euthnasia were(are) either Christian or hospice businesses (who would lose customers).

48.6% of New Zealanders have "no religion".

obviously legal in Canada too ( doctors push people to do it there ). but Canada is too cold and NZ is too far.

pretty much only rights i care about is right to bear arms to defend myself. and right to kill myself. that is rights to live and rights to die. amazing how these are controversial, yet Liberals don't believe in right to self defense and Conservatives don't believe in right to die.

the 2 party system basically took the most idiotic positions and randomly assigned them either to liberals or conservatives and then said " fight ! "

they replaced philosophy with a chicken fight ...

ps: i know you don't care about US politics but i suspect it is similar in other places ...

When it is time to die, move to Canada. You don't have to live there the whole time.