No, not yet, and hopefully we never go that route. Our Constitution can’t be taken for granted.

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I couldn’t agree more. That’s also why we have guns; the second amendment protects the first.

Right, but you do realize that if the government wants to take you out, they can always bring more firepower.

Any government anywhere can take out a single citizen…

I assume you understand that in these United States of America there is a fundamental difference because a massive part of our population is armed to the teeth and our military is made up of people from the same families who arm themselves to the teeth?

Which are you?

I think we’re in basic agreement. As much of a mess as this place can be, I wouldn’t want to be living there right now.

The Fourth Amendment is more important that the Second, but Americans don't make much visible effort to protect it