This is a good example of tribal nonsense on the bitcoin side.
My problem is Monero folks have ended up just as bad and often condescending.
I remembetr the early days of Monero. We respected each other.
Most of the arguments here have been polarising and shallow. I appreciate the op.
Guilty on both sides for sure
Monero folks are mostly privacy aware Bitcoiners that created Monero for Bitcoiners.
It's not us vs them. It's us struggling with each other over the different trade offs we made and make.
It's what gives Nostr value over centralised social media that always leans to one side trying to mute other perspectives on life.
Yes, I couldn't agree with this more, but I've seen that attitude disappear and be replaced by an attitude of Bitcoiners are stupid, that they've ruined Bitcoin, that it's been co-opted by blockstream, basically all of the narratives that Craig Wright used. It has become an us versus them type of a situation. And I just think this is a mistake. I have said since the beginning that Monero fills a gap that Bitcoin simply cannot fill by design. And I still believe that. And the opposite is true as well.
That said, I think development on top of Bitcoin can certainly take us towards a much closer to monero experience, at least on certain layers above the base chain. Liquid is a good example of something that could do this were it to be used more.
1. I'm a bitcoiner... I just happen to use monero also. It has amazing utility as a private payment method.
2. Your mention of Liquid is telling as it reveals both a dependency on second layers and federations, as well as the core devs unwillingness time and again to push privacy improvements to the base layer.
Liquid doesn't do anything to hide sender/receiver either. Very far behind todays privacy tech.
