Most end users don’t care about nuts, zaps, channels, utxos and sats.

They just want a payment network that allows them to pay and get paid without someone’s arbitrary permission or pervasive surveillance.

The sooner we can remove all this technical detail from the end user experience, the better.

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could be waiting a while since the front end guys have started using AI to write their code and AI doesn't have innovation capabilities (or security, for that matter)

I feel so old-fashioned, hand-coding, thinking ‘how the fuck do I make this simpler?’

anyone who writes code only for machines is a terrible team mate

Were not already there? I use mini-bits on amethyst and it mostly just works and the only setup was getting an LLM address from them...

No. We’re not there yet. Not by along shot.

Can you explain cuz the setup I just described was simple.

We need more Product Manager on Bitcoin to bring UX requierment and product roadmap. I'm one myself but it looks like we are not welcome at Bitcoin projects and even Bitcoin companies. Most of the time, one of higher persons, usually CTO or CEO like position, will try to cover this part but it's a full time job that need skills and experiences.

Also private industries are paying Product Manager so well, that's hard to move to such projets, beside a side hobby. And even so, it's hard to get a place.

I’ve seen this movie before. I was a product manager early in my career, used to dealing with devs who thought you were fucking retarded, and marketing folk that could only Bluesky and PowerPoint. It’s meeting in the middle - combining the wildly aspirational with the overly technical into product that someone actually understands, values and buys.

Nostr is still a land of devs and ideologues, but what I see here gives me hope and excitement, the same I saw 30 years ago before the internet dam broke into the broad public and commercial domain.

Eventually, most early Bitcoiners will be able to afford not to work a fiat job and will be free to work on thing that matter the most. I have great hopes as well.

I think that is the case already. I believe that some Bitcoiners will begin supporting initiatives with Bitcoin that they don’t actually need over above their own well-being.

I want to do this for local businesses with a physical tap to pay card. the retailers save 4%+ credit card processing fees, which means users of the local payment system can get a perpetual discount everywhere. and newcomers to town can get enticed into the ecash/lightning world without knowing it.

Yep, it should be as simple as ‘we accept Visa, Mastercard, Lightning’ where Lightning is just another payment network where you can pay in the currency denomination of your choice.

I prefer to use ‘Lightning’ because it is truly a payment network, that happens to use Bitcoin for settlement.

I was talking about doing it with cashu and not requiring customers to buy or even know about Bitcoin. they "just use that card thing that all the local businesses accept at a discount" and they can top it up at any merchant (this is where the Bitcoin transaction happens behind the scenes) or cash out if they were just a visitor to town for the day and didn't spend it all.

That’s exactly my vision. My wallet is built completely on Cashu. But the more I work with it, the more invisible I want it to be. I am also making the wallet present amounts in the local currency unit of choice.

The big thing I learned while travelling is that the local currency is pretty much hardwired into everyone’s brain to make pricing decisions. After a few days, as a traveller, you begin to do the same. But everybody knows Visa and Mastercard and are willing to do transactions, if they are equipped. But it’s all done in local currency.

There needs do be a heavy ‘don’t make me think’ component for most.

Exactamento.

It would be like asking a user to configure their own local IP address before using the coffee shop WiFi. Not gonna happen.