It’s like saying everyone has heard of atheism, so why isn’t everyone an atheist, or everyone has heard of a type 3 civilisation, so why aren’t we one yet? These things are a combination of letting go of old beliefs (which some people refuse to do, so generations literally have to die before things change), technological progress and changes in existing power structures and incentives for those in power who the new system would displace, who are going to fight to keep their power despite what is best for humanity overall (if they even have the perception to see that).
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Bitcoin also has the double early-adopter problem for nation states in that not only does it make other states look bad and be less competitive if your country adopts it, it also makes it harder for the new state to raise taxes through skimming transactions like vat or gst, or by printing money, both being necessary at the moment to defend yourself from invasion by jealous legacy fiat states. Hence my wish is probably just a wish for now
So I’ll reiterate my point that powerful bitcoin ETFs are probably the best although not great option if you want bitcoin to have some power at the centralised bargaining table
Decentralized stuff doesn't need to sit at the bargaining table. Like nostr.
Just do it.
However compared to Bitcoin nostr is comparatively well designed.
You can’t expect tech that can survive attacks from any nation state to also succeed instantly
You've had 15 years did I mention that.
Yes you did and I mentioned that not everyone knew about it the day satoshi released the whitepaper, and then you said ‘well everyone has heard of it now’ and I addressed that point too.
Not sure why you keep relying on arguments you can’t defend and so instead throw out a different one-liner until you’ve exhausted all three you have and so just circle back to the first one and hope I forgot what you said like three two-line posts earlier
Here's the last of that debate quoted below I don't see a response to that.
Let me reiterate that I like the comparison to atheism because that one can be practiced decentralized in small circles just like Bitcoin and also lives alongside other belief systems just fine. But atheism got wildly popular on its merit meanwhile bitcoiners have to conjure up enemies to cope with their shortcomings.
Nation states don't need to adopt Bitcoin. Just you and your village or circle of friends. It's not happening because it's a shitty currency.
Evil enemies of Bitcoin are mostly conjured up to make it look legit, as in if it has enemies it must be for real.
No, because atheism is wildly popular. Bitcoin has practically zero adoption.
Atheism is also a good example of living alongside religion just fine.
Saying it's not 100% is a straw man argument. You wished Bitcoin had the adoption of atheism.
Atheism has been around for at least two Millenia and in 2024 you still have to have a religion in the fourth most populated country in the world, so maybe give bitcoin a little longer than15 years before writing it off on the basis of adoption proving value.
Give Bitcoin a little longer is sort of like Jehovah's Witnesses' ongoing predictions that the end times will come this time really soon finally now. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_Watch_Tower_Society_predictions