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Huberman is a real expert on the human eye and spreader of the phone light is bad story that is passing around various health influencers.

I remember his original most detailed post about how the eye uses light to regulate sleep and a couple of very important points have gone missing in the game of telephone that is influencers passing the information around.

Detail 1. The eye and brain team is sort of taking a rolling multi day average of when you see the brightest light. Noon day outdoors on a sunny day is typically cited as 100k lux. My 65" TV just measured 250 lux at 1ft. So, the sun is a mere 400x brighter.

Detail 2. The eye doesn't use the same sensors to see as to set your circadian rhythm. The circadian rhythm sensors are looking for the sun at noon and are positioned ideally for that, meaning that they respond much more to overhead light than light below your eyeline or directly in front of you.

Put those 2 together and rethink how to use light to improve your sleep. Even if you hold your phone above your head like some kind of weirdo, the noon day sun is 400x brighter and will win that battle. A baseball cap outside at noon is more of a threat to your sleep than the light from a phone before bed.

The original Huberman protocol reflected those facts. The plan was to get a few minutes sun exposure with no hat or glasses on first waking, noon, and around sunset. No real mention of screens.

Later he partnered with and started advertising for Roka who sells blue light filter glasses. Then the screen fear angle took over his comments on the matter. No way to sell you "go outside for 15 minutes a day" so the advertisers won over scientific accuracy.

I'm not saying screen time can't disrupt your sleep, only that the content matters far more than the light itself unless you are a cave troll who never sees the sun. Hardcore Henry is a great movie, but maybe not right before bed.

What do I do? I go outside without a hat and glasses around noon. Cloudy week in winter? I stand under a plant light I have that is 10x as bright as my TV for a bit. I use my phone whenever but try to be deliberate about what content as bedtime nears. Well known sitcom I've seen a dozen times is in. Arguing on nostr or action movies I've never seen before are out.

Maybe the influencers should partner with plant light companies instead of glasses companies and fix their science. Bonus, better seedlings with the better plant light. Can your blue light blockers do that?

Didn't really know about most of this, but assuming your details are accurate, makes a lot of sense. nostr:npub180czphasst2k8035u9nuk4wdmt9eppme9l03tp5j43qck7s8emwqr8agc0 you may find this of interest

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I'm not perfect but I'm trying to be as accurate as I can.

My distaste for health influencers comes from having had an undiagnosed chronic illness. I tried most of their shit on myself as I got sicker and sicker.

I figured it out, nothing from any health or longevity experts material, and doing much better know. Hoping to save others from the waste and distraction I suffered through.

My blue light blockers went in the trash so you can't have them even if you don't believe me.

Interesting. My only ailment right now is rapidly declining eyesight. Had 20/20 forever, then couple years ago was getting hard to read, so got some reading glasses cheap. Now I'm buying expensive prescriptions at a rate of every 6 months (3 times so far) with increasing strength, and it's annoying and worrying a bit. Can already feel the latest ones not doing as well as when I first got them.

Randomly heard about some combination of red light and a screen (or pinhole glasses) from someone in a related field so got curious to look into that. Can't really find much on it though, so seems bogus.

Interesting you say that. My eyes are fine, but once it gets past 7pm, I struggle reading and it gets progressively worse as the evening goes on. Unsure if it's something I should get checked out, or if my eyes just get tired as the day goes on.

Wish I had helpful tips. I envy you having good eyesight for rest of day. Sounds like beginning of decline though. I went a few months in denial, having moments of blurry vision but mostly normal the rest of the time. Then finally straight up couldn't read anything without lots of effort and squinting :(

The little digging I've done isn't too promising. Might be worth getting an exam soon

Getting older sure is fun lol

Lots of people advise time in full sun looking into the distance with no corrective lenses too.

I haven't messed with vision bio hacking much because sleep was my big issue when I was sick.

Yeah, i sort of gathered indirect sun a good thing, thus I almost never wear my sunglasses when out or driving anymore.

Funny you should mention sleep. Kinda struggling with that lately; have posted about it a couple times. Was your sleep a side effect of some other health issue, or was it your main issue?

My issue is months now I wake up earlier than ideal, around 4-5, but closer to 4 most days. Oddly restless even though I can feel another hour or so would do me good.

Sleep was a symptom of a type of food allergy.

Typical most known food allergies are IGE type, anaphylactic and hives immediately on exposure.

Non IGE food allergies are a thing too. The reaction doesn't start until the food is into your intestines hours later. Sleep disturbed and GI issues. High heart rate and body temp at night.

No real test for non IGE food allergy, just do elimination diets with common food allergens.

Thanks! I suspect it might be a little GI issue for me, so this could be helpful.

Will read a bit about it since don't know what IGE is, but idea of paying closer attention to diet before bed is a great idea I should have thought of sooner!

IGE, vs non IGE just refers to the type of immune system reaction. If you are curious it can be interesting. If you just want to be healthy all you need to know is IGE causes anaphylaxis as soon as it hits your mouth, non IGE the reaction doesn't start until the trigger food is out of your stomach and into your intestines. Ige can kill you on the spot, non IGE will just make you a sickly and tired piece of shit.

If that is what it is, you'll need to avoid your trigger food all day every day just like an ige allergy.

Because you get no indication while you're eating you eat full portions. Your body can't heal and normalize until all of the allergen is out of your system. Pooped out to be clear. 3 days clean to start to see improvement, a week or more to fully normalize.

With daily exposure GI symptoms means loose all the time. With intermittent exposure your GI system stops and the restarts, so constipation that quickly becomes diarrhea once things get moving again. Easily misdiagnosed as Crohns or IBS.

Fascinating. I'm gonna pay closer attention to this. Does seem GI related as it is first thing I wanna do when I get up, even though it's not like an urgent need. Maybe the guts are overactive too early in morning and that's making me overly alert at odd hours. Lots to think about.

Have an idea. Maybe I try 3 days with a really limited diet. Remove everything but a few foods, and see how that goes 🤔

Thanks for sharing info

When I finally looked at diet and food allergies I just picked a thing from the common allergens list and went 1 at a time for my elimination diet. It was slightly informed by knowing what I eat and slightly random since I was eating multiple top 5 allergens daily, most people are. Got lucky and it was the first food I tried.

Of course I had tried all sorts of non food elimination solutions for years first but still.

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Will have a look into this list. May be easier to remove one at a time like you did, rather than try to start at "zero" and add back slowly (I don't do much of the cooking).

Let you know if anything comes of it 👀

Hope it helps. At the very least you have a cool new anecdote to bore people with at parties.

Paying off already. Already bored one person with info about it this morning.

Let you know how it goes/what I find

I thought it would be good for chasing people away at parties. I couldn't be sure since I don't get invited to parties.

lYeah, I get dragged along to one now and then, so will be good to keep this in the back pocket ;)

Hope you find a good solution soon, or a way to reverse the problem later

Me too. Probably just normal and I'm a worrier, and a bit more time and things stabilize. I'm not blind or anything (knock on wood)

Bill, where did you learn the info from Detail 2?

Old Huberman video from before he was sponsored by a blue light blocker glasses manufacturer.