That’s interesting. I’m not in either party, but I think the inclusion argument would be much more persuasive to me, just because of the history of abuse and exclusion delivered through the banking system and its regulators.

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I believe that the different starting points lead to the same final path. It's about finding a way to reach someone and a lot of time that is trying to understand where they're coming from by asking the right questions and then listening to their responses.