Hey y’all, help me understand something. If me and my friend have KYC sats, can’t we just clear the KYC by selling to each other for USD? Like I buy 0.1 BTC from him for USD, and he does the same to me. To fresh wallets. And pay whatever capital gains or loss taxes, obviously. But at that point, the privately purchased sats are KYC free, no?

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You can even scale that by coinjoining with whirlpool but that is only going to tackle forward privacy.

The KYC bitcoin you bought is still on a list forever regardless of what you do later.

But it’s the same as for example buying from bisq right? I mean, the bitcoin I buy anywhere (except a miner) is most likely KYC to someone

It's not your KYC which is all that matters. And you should also mix coins from p2p markets.

The point of #kyc is not to make sense. (The fact that they are asking for “electricity bill” clearly shows this). The point of kyc is to increase the burden of using #crypto and to keep away small investors who would benefit most.

This come to the benefit of large player for whom the additional cost induced by kyc is comparatively negligible

You need a fresh start to be totally KYC-free.

(1) Sell your "KYC'd to your identity" coins or just keep them separately

(2) Buy some "non-KYC'd to your identity" coins for cash / amazon gift cards / azteco vouchers to be able to pay your initial security deposit at Bisq

(3) Start purchasing at Bisq

(4) Withdraw from Bisq to your clean "non-KYC'd to your identity" wallet via coinjoin

Ya I don’t understand how this is different from:

1) Sell KYCd to my identity coins

2) Buy non-KYCd to my identity coins from a private party for cash

That’s it. Why involve bisq?