if you want Nostr to have a chance you have to decouple it from Bitcoin. as long as Nostr is "Bitcoin Social" nobody will use it.

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would you join Ethereum Social ? how about Fiat Social ? then why do you expect anybody to join Bitcoin Social ?

It’s not a nostr problem, it’s a bitcoin problem. eth adjacent social exists. But identifying as a user of fiat is silly, and adopting that culturally for bitcoin is the only way forward for bitcoin. #YouAreNotABitcoin

Yeah Nostr needs to talk about other stuff than Nostr and Bitcoin

I wanted to zap you because I totally agree, but you don't appear to be set up to receive zaps. Maybe that's your point about not making it "Bitcoin social" though 😂

That's a logical fallacy. In this fiat world, we don't really have division of labor. The massive fiat plunder is basically bringing us back to the stone age. You could divide the world right now between people that have a lot of different non-specialized skills (I.e. cavemen) and the people that are basically spoiled brats (i.e. the lemmings). Putting the argument that Nostr doesn't work because it doesn't have diversity is nonsense because we didn't even have true diversity as a civilization.

Exactly. It originally had the foresight to be agnostic about any specific financial system

This is what ive been saying, but we're just the early adopter freaks. Will need a few influencers to make it not abouy bitcoin and allow users to denominate sats to dollars on their clients.

there's a seemingly growing number of people who also think this (or maybe I've just grown my echo chamber on here lol). Would be sad if nostr was just a bitcoin telegram group with bells and whistles.

But I am also a little hopeful, The ability to make subreddit-like groups and clients that cater to this is growing and hopefully will continue and improve. There is already one such group which has migrated here and the hopefully more follow. This allows bit of detachment from the 'stack sats and stay humble' spam, which nostr can often feel like. (Your feed / follow curation here is somewhat needed if you want it to be other than bitcoin twitter / bitcoin slogans. And clients don't really help a new user such as this with their recommended follows tbh.)

I also see some hope in awareness of nostr (struggling not to say 'brand recognition' lol), I can see people, content creators especially, listing nostr as a safety follow. A 'just in case my main social platform gets nuked' -type deal, in a similar way to youtubers recommending Rumble / Rokfin / bitchute. Perhaps a bit of marketing is needed here.

Boosting my idiot thoughts and my idiot typos on nostr, the decentralised social media protocol

But the fact is that there is no forced coupling at the protocol level, if ethereum wants or Fiat companies want they can easily integrate into nostr.