It's been over a week and I'm still rocking my Pixel 7a with #GrapheneOS. I was about to put the sim back into my iPhone Monday, but I found the strength to stick it out after reciting a few affirmations from one of Nostr's expert Graphene securitooors, nostr:npub1x458tl7h9xcxa66vr4a8pg0h2qz96pnhwnfpcra0le9090uk5t5qw7armt 😂
Honestly loving it. Don't think I'll go back.
You broke free, do not put the chains back on.
I'm 2 years in. The iOS withdrawal was brutal. Now I'm loving life.
Don't stop: it gets much better.
I am finding the same to be true.
I know the feeling. It's great! 🫂🤙
🫂🥰👑
Fuck yeah man. I've been using degoogled android (graphene, then calyx, then back to graphene) for several years and no way I could go back. Stick it out. The private life is good.
What do you do for photos, calendars and backups? That's one thing I'm worried about. Still using Google calendar and photos for now until I figure out a self hosted solution.
I use Synology NAS and their photos and calendar apps are great. Almost everything else I use is on my docker server which syncs over NFS shares to the NAS.
You lost me at docker server. Is this for other files?
Docker is a container service. For example, my Bitcoin/lightning stack is containerized and runs on that server. I run internal tools my family uses. It runs my *arr media stack. My Pihole network adblocker. Home automation. VPN.
It's honestly ridiculous but it handles all of those various things people need accounts for centralized services all over the Internet to do.
Graphene had a built in backup option. You back it up locally.
For pictures, files, contacts, calrndar, etc. Use Nextcloud Sync client. The Sync client can auto copy or even move your media to your Nextcloud, which can then be synced down to your laptop from your Nextcloud. You can easily set up a 100/Gig Nextcloud at Cloudamo starting @ $4/month.
We did?
We do, with Seedvault. However we are working on a simpler (code) and more robust in house implementation to replace this, there will be a proper backup app for both manual and automatic backups, with support for backing up a specific app and support backing up to your home directory, a USB drive or device-to-device transfer.
Sorry. "Had" was a swypo.
If you want to stick with a mainstream cloud provider but want to secure it. Cryptomator is a great option and supports auto photo upload.
Wow that's awesome. And FOSS too? Thank you!
Debating iOS usage next year (not paying full price for a Pro Max, Swappa gang) because of the fact I use a Spritz card, and would like to not be restricted to online-only purchases using it.
Unless I can (successfully) create a Google account with an sms4sats number, I see a transition to iOS as an unfortunate inevitability. They both suck, but one is much worse than the other; it also doesn't help that people are STILL reporting the exact same carrier dropout issues on the Pixel 8 Pro that should have been resolved by now.
What's the best way to get started? I have an extra android phone and thinking to graphene it
I just followed the instructions on the graphene website and it was super easy. I used two phones for a couple of days just to make sure I had all the stuff I needed access to for work etc but stopped taking my iPhone with me this past week. Side of Burritos on YouTube has some good content as well.
I am too nervous that i will end up bricking my phone.
If using our web installer you can't, so long as your bootloader is accessible you can put an OS on it.
The advice received above about just following the official guide is paramount. Do NOT use third party videos if possible, USB debugging is NOT required.
Any problems let me know or visit our support rooms:
GrapheneOS Community https://matrix.to/#/#community:grapheneos.org
Give it a go, let the inner power user free.
check of the device is supported
Same, I'm surprised by how much I love it. Still don't like the looks of it. But the optionality makes up for that, and might even fix it too. 👌
The thing I miss most is the ability to swipe down and just start typing in the search box for contacts, apps, iMessages, notes, etc. Not sure if that's something that could be added but that was the main way I navigated on iOS.
nostr:npub1gd3h5vg6zhcuy5a46crh32m4gjkx8xugu95wwgj2jqx55sfgxxpst7cn8cis something like this in the pipeline?
I didn't use that much. But that's maybe something a Launcher can fix.
I didn't really find an open source one to my taste, but some have this feature of I recall correctly.
What are you using for calendar management and navigation
Still using gcal for now. Couldn't go completely cold turkey. But thinking of either proton or self hosting for calendar. These are the biggest pain points right now bc all of the family stuff is on a different calendar for each kid and my wife as well as work schedule.
For maps I actually have my old iPhone plugged into the car for apple carplay and just use the hotspot on my graphene. Any suggestions?
You can use Etar for Calendar and sync all your family stuff (calendar, contacts, files, notes, tasks, etc.) over Nextcloud. You use the DAVx5 app to connect your Nextcloud contacts and calendars to Android.
You can create an account at Murena.io to play with all of this. Murena uses Nextcloud.
For a "DeGoogled" navigation option, you use "GMaps WV" to look up addresses, and share those to OsmAnd~. You can also use Organic Maps if you prefer They both work good
Yeah could just use Google Maps on the GrapheneOS device works with or without Play Services and only uses GPS/GNSS no network location from Google unless you want it.
OSMAnd+, Organic Maps are just two other options.
As far as Calendar goes, Fossify fork of SimpleMobileTools Calendar for on device might work if they keep it updated. However if you're a Proton user that avenue is good, I use Tuta's. Both support importing .ics.
How do you disable "netwerk location" ?
You don't need to disable it, by default the OS uses only GPS/GNSS.
Network location is opt-in by installing Play Services, enabling wifi and bluetooth scanning under Location Services, followed by disabling the routing to GPS/GNSS via tapping the persistent GMSCompat notitication that tells you Play Services is running.
Oh wow, ok awesome! Didn't get that and switching "Network" & "Location" made me nervous😉.
Thanks
1. Use Google Maps w/ sandboxed Google Play enabled via #GrapheneOS's app store (called Apps).
2. I really like skiff.com for an E2EE office suite with mail, calendar, drive, and pages (wikis). Apps work great on #GrapheneOS and don't require Google Play.
what made you almost break?
I think most folks realize that Android without Google is a really clean and powerful experience, and we have #GrapheneOS to thank for that.
In a way, #GrapheneOS is more Android than Android. The more I use it, the more #GrapheneOS feels like stock Android and Google's version feels like a spinoff.
I’m going to join soon. Good to hear!
Fuckit—updating my wishlist for Santa!
