I do, and caffeine is definitely not required

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It definitely isn’t, its just tasty. Like pussy and mango

My comment had nothing to do with caffeine, but rather blaming energy levels on caffeine or lack thereof.

Most people I see who are trying to figure this out are doing everything but lifting weights & playing a sport.

Doesn't even have to be heavy weights, just something consistent over time.

I see, that makes sense. I do think caffeine can create dependency over time, but I agree that the number one biggest factor is actually just getting outside or in a gym and moving your body.

Caffeine disrupts circadian rythm, so it's valid to "blame caffeine" on low energy levels.