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Let’s stop dancing around it: Billionaires shouldn’t exist.

No one “earns” a billion dollars.

You extract a billion.

From underpaid workers.

From deregulated industries.

From tax havens.

From stolen land, stolen labor, and generational exploitation.

Meanwhile, nearly 700 million people live in extreme poverty on less than $2 a day (source: World Bank). And we’re out here defending the people who could end global hunger with a fraction of their net worth but choose not to?

Let’s be clear:

You don’t get to be a billionaire without creating suffering.

You underpay. You outsource. You lay off. You lobby to kill regulations.

You exploit a system built to protect wealth—not people.

Why do we tolerate it?

Because we’ve been sold a lie: that “someday,” we might be rich too.

But statistically, you’re more likely to be struck by lightning than become a billionaire.

This fantasy isn’t harmless—it’s a weapon used to keep you compliant.

There is no moral justification for hoarding more wealth than entire nations while children die from preventable diseases.

Billionaires aren’t a sign of a healthy economy.

They’re a symptom of a broken one.

A society that lets a few live like gods while millions suffer is not free—it’s feudal.

Amazingly, over the last five decades, 79 Trillion dollars has been redistributed to the 1% from the lower 90%.

In the documentary Where To Invade Next, Michael Moore interviews the owners of a textiles plant in Italy and informs them that if they used American business practices, they could drastically increase their profits and asks them why wouldn’t they do that?

Their reply was, they don’t need to become “more rich”. They are already wealthy enough and bring enough in to enjoy their lives. The woman says clearly, “I’d rather see that go to the employees. To have real relationships with them, to see them happy. It’s amazing to hear people ask how your mother is doing, from a coworker.”

The power vacuum is full throttle, and the powers that be have become a snowball rolling down a hill, and we have reached critical mass.

I’m not left, I’m not right.

I’m a person. I think for myself.

It’s obvious that we are heading in a bad direction, and I hope leaders rise and the people stand up for themselves. Speak up, say something, anything is better than complacency and silence.

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If my son was to read this, he would correctly identify you as a socialist.

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Why is it if a person makes a single statement about one specific event or fact, you feel entitled to label them?

You have no idea what I am or who I am. This feels like you’re defending social and economic injustice by attacking an independent thinker who takes issue with the 1% siphoning 79T from the lower 90% over 50 years…

Thank you for replying.

You stated that one doesn't just become a billionaire by "earning" 1 billion dollars, hence it would be rightful to remove part of such wealth to give to the rest of the people.

That is socialist by definition, is it not?

While I agree that what many people call "capitalism" today, is mostly nothing like real capitalism, but in actuality it's "crony capitalism", which uses the monopolistic power and violence of the state to force taxation money into its own pockets, either directly or by sponsoring laws that grant unearned monopoly power to itself in the market, hence several large extremely rich companies are in fact just stealing money... one can very well legitimately earn to become a billionaire by being extremely successful at providing goods and services that people want, at a good quality and price. That is the wonder of truly free market.

This would happen at great benefit also of everyone else, as they will gladly spend their money to buy products and services that fully satisfy their needs.

This would also in turn benefit workers, who would be free to sell their time and work to the best buyer.

As it is now, each and every critique of "capitalism" that is going mainstream, is actually a critique of something that, without the state, simply would not exist.

I do like your reply.

And I like the fact that you took the time to explain in simple words, how you feel and what you think.

It’s refreshing. I agree with a lot of what you said.

My one issue is, I didn’t suggest we take money from legitimate billionaires and give it away, my problem is the billionaires that did not provide actual goods and services and aquired the wealth through conspicuous means, loopholes and underhanded mechanisms that seem self indulgent and go against the simplest logic and moral constructs.

Oh, I see, those would be called cantillionaires.

While they are actively violating personal liberties by abusing state power for their own benefit, they are are an emanation of the state.

As long as enough people will keep believing the superstition that what is illegitimate for an individual to do (expropriation, murder, compulsion) becomes legitimate and just if you are a politician, a soldier, or a judge, the state will maintain its status of religion and all of us will have to bear the consequences.

So I guess the meeting point is that, if your OP was actually referring to cantillionaires, then yes, they do violently extract wealth and we fully agree on the topic.

In this case I was wrong, and you are not, in fact, a socialist :-)

I mean, I don’t know what I am, or what am not. I don’t like labels, I don’t like a dual party system… I’m just a “Sai”.

I love things like, consensus.

Trustless systems. Immutable ledgers.

I love honesty. I like to see teamwork, I like to see when a person puts a degree of extra effort, sometimes for their selves, sometimes for others. Acts of selflessness, and kindness.

It seems pretty obvious to me that if we as the human race can stop bickering, and start having compassion for eachother, especially our young people, that we can achieve great things.

I believe that value FOR value is crucial, and we should be rewarded for virtuous acts. We should make art, make music, make love, and try to leave the world a little better than when came into it.

I know there’s evils in the world.

There are evil people, there are people with diminished capacities, both self inflicted and inherited, and our species could never be PERFECT on an Individual basis, but we can and should strive to do better as a species.

It’s funny to see people label you as a socialist for saying this while they’re rushing to the defense of billionaires who couldn’t have made their fortunes without exploiting every possible government loophole.

God forbid a bitcoiner criticize capitalism! 🤣 Funny indeed

Fuckin’ sycophants! You’re supposed to be free-thinkers… 😆