Monero users also spend fiat?
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My PSA allows for this reality.
However I'll digress and respond further.
I understand the monero user to be a rational human who uses whatever tool works best for him or her, even if that includes fiat or bitcoin.
The bitcoiner uses bitcoin hopefully (sometimes not, I'll get to that in the next sentence) but probably fiat quite frequently, as the need arises, yet posts online about monero being a shitcoin.
Even worse if he's a NGU hodler using bitcoin only as an investment vehicle...
Monero users are interested in peer to peer digital cash, and the more private the better. As hopefully, SOME bitcoiners are. Again, a lot of bitcoiners are holding paper only and DO NOT SPEND.
Then I come to Nostr and see a bunch of LN users/devs shitting on monero calling it a shitcoin... It just seems counterproductive and counterintuitive. At least someone like nostr:npub1lxktpvp5cnq3wl5ctu2x88e30mc0ahh8v47qvzc5dmneqqjrzlkqpm5xlc is logically consistent when he gives people shit for using fiat at all... I actually respect that. As much as I'd like him to take a more measured look at monero as a grassroots project that cannot "pump and dump" on someone, has no pre-mine or self-enriched founder like ETH or XRP does...
My biggest problem with Monero is that it's not Bitcoin. Creating a Bitcoin circular economy requires using Bitcoin. Using Monero is not using Bitcoin. Monero is not a layer on Bitcoin, it is its own economy and culture that is in direct competition with the Bitcoin economy and culture. Both cultures are incredibly small and thus the Monero has a real dilutive effect to the Bitcoin economy.
It comes down to the *kind* of culture and economy you want to see in the world.
As a oldie and 90s cypherpunk type dude
the principles of #monero are closer to my heart than whatever #bitcoin is turning into today.
but obv these are all decisions we have to make for ourselves 👍
Which is totally fine. Cash e.g., is fairly private (more so than on chain bitcoin actually, which is one of the reasons for the Samourai Wallet devs indictment. Adding basic privacy was necessary to get onchain Bitcoin's privacy up to just the basic level of the fiat system which is NOT as transparent as bitcoin is. Maybe if they'd just switched to Monero when bitcoin devs demurred and declined to add privacy to the base layer, they'd have less money, but be a lot more free...)
As I said in my first response. My PSA allows for monero users to use fiat... That's not the point. The point is if you want to attack bitcoin users for using monero, why are you not attacking bitcoin users for using fiat, which is arguably a bigger shitcoin than monero, which is a dope privacy coin
You don't usually find Monero users calling everyone a shitcoiner though. That's where the hypocrisy is.