Having a Value Axiom proves that the conclusion is NOT an "objective moral value"

Its an evaluation based on the arbitrary axiomatic framework.

Mental frameworks always precede observables.

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I don't think you can make any logical argument without an axiom. Nothing exists in a vacuum.

I'm not saying Axioms by themselves are illogical. Moral axioms cannot be derived from observables, thats all.

They're "good" or "bad" because of some arbitrary Moral claim, within a relativistic worldview.