Am I the only one that feels this way?

When it comes down to the Nostr apps or the progressive web apps for some reason I just keep coming back to amethyst.

Is there a Noster app that you just keep coming back to even though there's so many options?

It's weird it's like I can't get used to any other ones and since they all don't have the same features I end up going back to the one that has the most features I guess I don't know.

What do you think?

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I've tried others, but always come back to Amethyst too.

It's weird right? I feel like amethyst is pretty much almost there it just needs a couple more features

nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z améliore pratiquement l'application constamment dernièrement il était sur un chantier d'une autre de ses activités plus personnelles concernant les lunettes. Sinon c'est ingénieur très accessible et réactif.. Il y a un chat au besoin pour Améthyst

Guess I need to try Amethyst

What app are you using now?

Mostly damus daily but I often check snort.

I uninstalled and reinstalled snort cuz it always bugs on me what's your favorite thing about Damus?

Amethyst est bien cependant souvent les images qu'ils intègrent ne s'affichent automatiquement ou ils vous signale Not Found

I use nostrudel quite a bit, but mainly for making communities. But yea, amethyst seems to be top dawg.

Yeah I like the nostradel app but I'm still getting used to it. I mainly use satellite Earth to mess with the communities like approval and stuff. But I mostly use amethyst

Amethyst is my 🍞 and 🧈

Can you tell us what are your favorite things or what makes it better in comparison to the other apps in your opinion and why you keep coming back to it?

Did you try the new one, https://nostraco.in yet?

Cool ! I like it! Is there an official android app?

Cool! It's a PWA - there's an install button on the settings screen.

Thank you

Totally hooked to Amethyst on Android and Nostrudel.ninja on browser .. I also use yakihonne.com for long form.... https://nostri.chat/ and https://widgets.twentyuno.net/ for my web2 site ..

What does this site do? Im confused what I'm looking at

This is a payments widget .. you can add five lines of code on any html page of a legacy website .. it allows visitors to pay in sats even without nostr .. basically a lightning widget that routes sats to your lnurl like getalby ..

Take a look at https://gita.shutri.com for a real life use case .. scroll down on any page to find this widget ..

This widget along with nostri.chat brings the flavours of nostr and lightning to legacy web ..which is cool cuz it kinda helps to orangepill:-)

I've only used amethyst, really. I'm trying a few other things, but... Not much.

I'm ok with Amethyst and NoStrudel. Yakihonne has both google tag and facebook tracking engaged, so my enthusiasm kind of plummeted.

Does it ? I didn't notice that .. let me check this !

nostr:npub1yzvxlwp7wawed5vgefwfmugvumtp8c8t0etk3g8sky4n0ndvyxesnxrf8q could you please check this .. we definitely not want Facebook tracking in nostr clients ! .. do we ?

Right click page source, observe page code, both google tag manager and facebook SDK are in there, nothing much to check. Some people do not like this, and I advise using Tor/Onion if you require high level of privacy. Personally, I don't care all that much, because my telecommunication provider has no idea where we are, so my geotag is off by a huge margin.

Both things sdk and tag are used for tracking, quality improvements and overall how search treats a website. Any apk hosted on either Apple and Shop, webpage hosting, domain etc, has some sort of an analytics, but number of downloads and views is not the same like having Metastasis banged on a front page.

There are plethora of reasons to get rid of Metastasis and Snoople, I hope they will drop it, neither of these things provide either trustworthiness or solid page traffic analytics.

Yakihonne expects sponsors and growth, that can be a motive to install analytics and tracking.

Problem is that this is a long post client wrapped in a webpage, so search just sees an empty husk.

Mapping URLs with something else than a long code may help, for example in case of Habla, there is a naddr URL and classic.

Using tag and sdk can help in social sharing. Bloggers like to cross-post and share their work, but with a current social media situation I sincerely don't know where to without being banned for shilling, so I think that Nostr environment should come first. A fact is that we can blog from a command line on nostr relay with NIP-22, maybe a focus should be on author feedback, mobile app and visual satisfaction then on an inflow of external communities.

We don’t have any Facebook tracking tags or any kind of the same thing except for the google analytics. In addition, SEO enhancement is required for content growth and awareness, so rest assured. However, there is sharing options for articles and of course gonna include sharing across other social media platform again for awareness and growth and in order to enable that this needs to be used. If there is anything feel free to DM 🫡 🫡.

It's your page, do whatever you please, but with all listed it doesn't matter, if you are running a Nostr client. It comes with certain expectations.

Expectations come with awareness thats all what i’m trying to say, this has nothing to do with our page or not. This has to do with the overall image that we are passing outside the nips or the nostr itself as an ideology.

This IS about your page, and expectation is mine. There are other clients that, I guess, pass that Nostr ideology without seasoning it with Google tracking and Facebook SDK. I don't say they don't use some other form of analytics, but maybe to do it some other way without Mega Maggot and Skynet, lol??

Bro have a nice day.

Sure girl 💜🙏

You may DM for better explanation so u can know clearly these stuffs are coming from where :D

I know, so no need. I have a website which I maintain with my team, we use all bells and whistles.

I just prefer something more futuristic for Nostr blog, like totally out there, brand new, stuff like that.

When the nostr protocol is expanded to other traditional communities and old school way of blogging or any other way of social media we can specify anything we want.
Expanding the awareness has the highest priority atm.

That's your business to deal with, as a user I came on Nostr to have Nostr, not Facebook or Google.

I will make comparative review of long form Nostr clients. Not only tracking, some other things for bloggers too, might give you ideas for future upgrades.

I’m not sure what are you saying by “having the Nostr” as far as im seeing you already have it as highest as it could be specially in these early stages. If you want an isolated blogging client you may fork one and customize it in the way you want. Whether its my business or not since you include yourself in technicalities you gonna receive technicalities and long ahead projections so that we as a community can have awareness about this thats all.

Thank you for your concerns and looking forward for you feedback 🙏.

You are welcome, I will try to be on time with feedback and up to date with your development.

Guys - excellent discussion. I guess this back and forth is very important because at the end we all want #nostr to be #trackingFree, #censorshipResistant and #user-friendly..

At the same time , there must be some incentive for #relays and #clients .. if that means sharing some usage information with clients like #yakihonne , that is a much better option than sharing data with #bigTech ..

My question is - if you deploy #Google Analytics on a web pages ..does that information go to Google or to website admin ( yakihonne ) in this case ?

And also , what do yakihonne do with that information..do they share that data with writers? ....saying this because , I haven't yet seen any intrusive ads on the yakihonne client ...

Dashboard is on Google. But, aside of light Yakihonne that has Google as analytics tool which assist in searchability and 2 confirmed cookies, sdk for metatags possibly and rich previews on traditional social media websites and all of them being front page insertion that is visible, Flycat uses 6 of them buried as a storage, NoStrudel up to 7 and njump who claims to be all gluten free with no client scripts involved (statement on their front page) uses Umami pro tracking. These scripts that they use allow maybe faster loading, yes, from a server side it takes off a load of data, but not always, but it also puts a strain on third party sharing and on the user's browser load so things get glitchy. Yakihonne can build far better self-reliant script and completely ditch sdk and external analytics.

Sometimes , some of these tracking tools come in when you implement some copied code ... I recall when I launched my own web2 website , ( gita.shutri.com ) , I went a great deal of digging up to make sure it was totally trackers and cookies free .. could you please take a look and confirm my position :-) ..

saying this cuz I guess I need to be cookie and trackers free before I go out and ask others :-) .. requesting cuz seems like you have deep tech abilities in this space whereas I am primarily a freedom writer ....cheers

Sure. I put review of your page at the end of #Nostr web clients #feedback ( scroll all the way till the end).

It includes pretty much all web clients that I was using so far.

I will probably cross-post it on Nostr, but that has to wait till tomorrow.

https://midsummer.pages.dev/nostr/2023-11-17-nostr-clients-analyses-feedback-request/

Wow .. what an analysis.. thanks a ton ..

Noted your comment that the subdomain and main domain don't fit in very well :-) .. that is because I still need to figure out what to do with main domain ( shutri.com ) .. may be a nostr client someday :-)

As regards to color , yes Yellow is intense but that is the color of Gold too :-) I will take as much Gold as you wanna give me anyday :-)

Feel free to hang out and send me questions if any on nostrichat ..that will be fun 😊

You are welcome. I like web pages, apps and internet in general, as you can tell.

I will visit and use chat, but not today. I just came back from a full day countryside trip. Need food and bed.

It was amazing.

keep coming back to snort on desktop, i like the minimal ui like bsky

Amethyst is home for me 🏠

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В Аметисте нету переаодчика.Я использую Nostrmo и Snort