Replying to Avatar Leo Wandersleb

I watched the video but don't quite understand what's going on.

So you ended up with your browser being configured to use a proxy that gave it DNS resolution for .hyper URLs? How are these routed? The holepunch people are loud about it being P2P with no middle man but how do packages actually travel from the client to the server and back? I see you are using no ssl. Is your proxy encrypting with the .hyper URL's public key or something?
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the axiom 1y ago

with hyperswarm A establishes a connection to B using some dht nodes to help punch holes, then A and B negotiate a noise channel, from there you can send and receive anything, encrypted TCP

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the axiom 1y ago

it's not pure p2p because you need someone to help with the holepunch and I imagine currently these helpful dht nodes are ran by the people behind the project

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supersu 1y ago

It is pure P2P, the nodes do not help in holepunching but to discover first few peers, a node is just a known peer. Anyone can become a node.

You need to look into Kademliya algorithem to understand how it all works.

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the axiom 1y ago

I think you might be too dumb to continue this conversation, but holepunching requires a third party by definition so Ill leave it up to you to tell me who does it in this case

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supersu 1y ago

Perhaps you are too smart to understand, but I will try:

Unlike traditional and common holepunching methods, there is no requirement of a third party STUN server in Kademliya.

The peers themselves act as a stun themselves(kind of) and help in holepunching.