Cities ruin people.

Cities drive up costs. Cities impose extra taxes & regulatory burdens. Cities disarm the innocent to aid the criminals. Cities pack people so close together that they begin to hate each other. Cities make people so disconnected from reality that they don't know how anything is produced or how power is supplied. Cities make people believe theft & homeless drugged out zombies are a normal part of life.

Cars are an amazing innovation. Cars cleaned up cities & communities by removing the previously everpresent piles of horse shit. Cars are an amazing tool of freedom allowing individuals to inexpensively travel thousands of miles without anyone's permission. People interested in cars are far more knowledgable & interesting than people interested in cities.

Get rid of cities, keep the cars.

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City dwellers will have restrictions imposed on their vehicles, it's been like that for a long time in Bogota for ex.

Great write up on cities 💜🤝🫂

Is this you?

On the contrary, its cars that impose extra taxes and regulatory burdens. You absolutely need someone's permission to use one. They cause alienation from each other and introduce friction to the social resilience of communities.

Are you an Agorist? "Agora" is a Greek word for "public square or market". I don't see a lot of functional public squares and grassroots level open markets with cars driving through them.

Cars are the only way to get to most markets. And the largest markets today are invisible because they operate online & operate almost entirely via motor vehicle deliveries.

Cars being the only way to get to most markets is a result of authoritarian policies. Cities that grew naturally before cars and Central Planning work better for people because they grew with freedom.

So you think there would be no market for cars if not for govt policy – this the same govt which originally tried to ban & cripple the market for cars?

You think people would rather just walk & carry shit everywhere? My neighborhood is great for walking & most people still drive golf carts everywhere.

Historically cities were liberalizing (as compared to the feudal countryside) - see the free cities of medieval Europe

Cities are also sites of manufacturing, craftsmanship, trade and cooperation.

Do your criticisms apply to Singapore, Hong Kong and Tokyo? Do they apply to Monaco, Florence, and Barcelona? Both at present and historically..?

Perhaps your criticisms are more of modern nation-state socialism than cities.

The idea that people are packed together is at least partly the result of zoning regulations that allow ultra-dense housing or single-family homes, with little in between. In contrast organically developed cities show a continual rebuilding that has resulted in a gradual transition from the dense areas to the outlying areas, with many middle forms of housing in between.

Another aspect you seem to be taking for granted is modern policing. New York City did not have a police force until 1845, surviving for over two centuries on the back of armed citizens (who maintained daily order) & marshalls and sherrifs (as agents of the courts enforcing specific orders). This was the historical pattern throughout the European world, including England.

Hong Kong (dispite a great deal of economic freedom) was disarmed & as a result easily taken over by China, so yeah kinda. Technology has arguably made manufacturing & craftmanship & remote forms of trade possible from almost anywhere. Given the lower cost of living in rural areas, & the risk to economic coordination on which the lives of people in cities directly depend, remaining in a major city just seems like a bad idea. I think serious economic & political instability are almost guaranteed at this point. Being in a major city (which all the authoritarians promote) just seems like a bad place to ride out the storm.

Please stop speaking on behalf of all Agorists. I'm an Agorist so I would need to agree with everything you say since your name is "AgoristView".

Otherwise, you're free to have all the opinions you want.

That sounds very collectivist. Agorists are individualists. You can go be an Agorist in LA or NYC if you want. I just think it's probably cheaper & easier & safer to be an agorist basically anywhere else.

Does "AgoristView" mean? "My opinions are heavy influenced by Agorism" or "I am Agorism because someone anointed me King of Agorism. Anything I say is Agorism and I speak on behalf of all Agorists"?