So Imane Khalif was born a woman, raised as a woman, and competed as a woman. From reading a few articles She may have some biologically abnormal capabilities that results in higher testosterone than typical for a woman. (Intersex or something else… not sure it’s any of my business to know her medical history) Wait…you mean an Olympic athlete may have some genetic capacity higher than average? 🙄It’s also not clear to me she is even considered an elite athlete that will achieve a medal?, suggesting it’s not clear there was any advantage she would possess over a typical woman trying to compete but we can just observe on that one.

I’m not sure how far I want to go with this.

So seems like a lot of people jumped to conclusions.

And I hope the internet has learned a valuable lesson about the complexities of human biology. 🤨

I’m curious what other female athletes would think of punching a competitor so hard they yield, and instead of celebrating the athletic accomplishment the internet goes sideways. Oh I guess she just hits hard, good for her. 👍

I would not be surprised to find many women competing at high levels of athleticism have a distribution of testosterone higher than typical, Either just within normal biology distribution or because something undiagnosed exists.

If that’s how they are born I think they should be able to use it to their advantage.

https://www.axios.com/2024/08/02/olympics-boxing-imane-khelif-gender-misinformation

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If she's with biologically abnormal capabilities then she's supposed to compete at the Paralympics, no?

Although that would have looked much much worse than a man beating a woman

Where does this end? Elite athletes probably have specific genes which helps with sorting out athletic ability, reaction time, height, muscle building, endurance. Biologically abnormal just means more than average by some amount. Where do they land on the bell curve. Where do you make the cutoff? Unless she wins the gold is there even an argument to be made that it gives her unfair advantages? And even if she does win the gold then you have to determine whether the advantage she has is abnormal enough to disqualify her from competing.

Regardless, a nuanced discussion on if someone’s born abilities make it unfair to compete is possible but it’s not THE controversy of a man competing in boxing with a woman.

Yes seems like a similar situation.

Having a Y chromosome now considered a "biological abnormality".

I’m sorry you were led to believe she was born male. She did not. This is not the controversy you are looking for.

Short answer: Claims made without evidence can be discounted with the same. The test was never released so I would ask you the same, what insider information do you have.

Long answer: The article has multiple points where it suggests that the test which was performed was not genetic but hormonal. Even with the results unreleased after disqualification suggests suspicious motive or results where is the transparency, other sources say as much. Which is why I wrote that she may have elevated testosterone. But Higher than typical testosterone isn’t evidence of chromosomes. Could be caused by a number of things. And it is at this point where it’s clear there isn’t really evidence of the controversy that’s been made with a number of possible explanations which are reasonable.

They went sideways due to predictive programming.

In the form of similar; but not quite as grey incidents, from the recent past

I mean, boxing is about hitting people. That's how the sport works.

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