Follow lists are the solution to the problem of finding some particular subset of items (in this case, npubs) within a very large set. A set the size of "all Twitter users" or "all Instagram users", for example.

They are a solution to a problem we do not have.

Our problem is the opposite:

We have lots of disparate data sets and need to find particular items somewhere in them.

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Totality of our (nostr) dataset is under 0.5TiB uncompressed and easy to search 😂

Yeah, and we have relays and filters and etc., people act like this stuff is hard.

I see lists as useful for some subset of would-be follows, maybe, (although relationships would be more useful), but basing everyone's feed on follows is archaic.

Yes, not like we don’t have good and easy semantic based approaches developed

So I don't know how to nostr. I would love separate follow lists I could easily switch between. Devs, news, other leisure and fun stuff follow lists. Sure I could create new keys, but not good ux to switch between them

Here is a list of devs. You can individually follow the people or add lists directly to your client if it provides such an option. Of course you can create own lists on Listr:

nostr:naddr1qq9yummnw3ezq3r9weesz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ehx7um5wghxyctwvshsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ehx7um5wghxyctwvshsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ehx7um5wghxyctwvshsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ehx7um5wghxyctwvshsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ehx7um5wghxyctwvshsygrlts45uj9qa8lv5caydvfumwpy386qyquc6c9zqu9fdr92sxxht5psgqqqw5cq549fqe

In Nostrudel you can categorize np7bs with the Follow button.

Just needs those to be Labels now (relationship status)

Ok, you have my interest piqued.

I will readily admit that follow lists is all I am really familiar with from legacy platforms. Maybe I just don't know any better because of that. I am just not understanding how you could replace follow lists with relays.

Sure, you can have a relay that only certain npubs are whitelisted to be able to post to, but you'll still only see posts from them on that relay if they add it to their write relays. That is unless you have the relay aggregate their notes from other public relays... And then have the ability to qyery your relay for a subset of the notes you want to see...

Doable, I suppose, but it's a big ask for most folks to run and manage their own relay without them being made WAY more user friendly.