I am a little suspicious of all the sudden hype towards liquid lately. Feels forced to me. Although i do like the idea of layer 2’s besides lightning

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I don’t think it’s forced. Fees have been high for a while so liquid just became useful for some things. Also, nostr:npub1psm37hke2pmxzdzraqe3cjmqs28dv77da74pdx8mtn5a0vegtlas9q8970 launched their lightning/liquid swap service which made it easy and cheap to swap for channel rebalancing.

Sounds reasonable, thanks 🤝

I'm not using liquid to hold long term, nor would I recommend it. As a short term solution for stacking a sizeable utxo to send on chain, I have been finding it useful though.

Thanks makes sense. May I ask why not do the same in Phoenix for example?

Phoenix fees are ridiculous, I had to quit using it after the splicing update. For lightning I have Mutiny & Zeus self custodial, and they both work well, up to my channel size. Liquid doesn't have that size limitation.

Never tried out phoenix until a couple months ago and immediately realized it makes no sense for me to use in any capacity. Must’ve been post-splicing update, hopefully

Cost me 4K sats to learn this lesson.

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What are Mutiny fees these days?

Zeus always takes so long to load I often give up

Mutiny seems to be the lowest fees, last time I checked anyways. Zeus is slow for me too, try toggling the express graph sync, that can help 👍