Someone, probably a US based catholic young male, subscribed my email to a bunch of lists in order to spam me. I can't be bothered to trace the IP they used for this. But Luke, control your herd.

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However heated a discussion is, attacks are never ok.

We want the best outcome for Bitcoin. We can't achieve that by shutting down people we disagree with.

Well you can't do anything about it, so the only solution is to disable your spam filter. 🤔

Weak and lame of you, Sjors. You should apologize.

nobody needs to apologize, don't be ridiculous

It's also unclear what he's offended by. If it's the "catholic" part, I'm merely describing the suspect without any value judgement. There's additional context that allowed me to narrow it down. I won't share that, because it's something only the perpetrator would know, so potentially relevant if they escalate.

Imagine explaining things and then people not being able to handle the truth. I understand why politicians prefer to keep things vague and impossible to understand.

The censor who wants to allow all kind of spam on Bitcoin complains about spam? Double standards anyone?

this doesn't make sense

if you have followed the discussions, it does, also it shows directly

Comparing email spam to Blockchain data is retarded

LOL

Permissions system vs decentralized permissionless

It really is a bad analogy

GitHub vs gitworkshop. Perhaps we can focus on which tools are good and why they are good rather than focusing on which people are "good".

Again, LOL

Email - SMTP, IMAP,POP3 are protocols, just like Bitcoin is a protocl.

Email is decentralized system. I can run my own email server, just like I can run my own Bitcoin Knots node.

BGP routing is non-deterministic.

Email is not centralized.

Who do you ask for permission to setup your email? You need to learn a thing or two.

High horse syndrome prevalent here. Futile trying to get these people to abstain. You'll get the usual "you're retarded" or "you're autistic" as a comeback.

No, that's not it. Email spam filters work because Google makes them for you and update them every day. And they only work in Gmail, everything else sucks. Do you get it? Try a bit

Only Google you say. Now that is retarded. All those from the screenshots are spam lists that are not Google.

Most of those are riddled with false positives.

And then there's SpamHaus. SpamHaus admin deserves to star in an Islamic State beheading video.

It's like talking to a child

exactly, I feel the same with you

maybe that's the problem, and not the filters

the spam on the Bitcoin monetary network is definitely the problem, the communication is not relevant in comparison

Anyway, excuse the rough tone. I appreciate you

Excuse my rought tone too. I also appreciate you and I will always respect the great work you do for Cashu.

In my opinion Bitcoin really is one of the very few hopes for humanity and we should not miss that chance.

I want Bitcoin to forever be - THE Global Most Secure Decentralized Unconfiscatable Peer-to-Peer Scarce Hard Sovereign Freedom Money and Greatest Store of Value

That is why I react the way I react. And I know we look ahead in the same direction but on cetrain points we have different point of views.

Errrrr wake up babe you've been in a koma for 20 years and email doesn't work like on the 90s anymore

Those online discussion somewhat lack the nuance needed to form an opinion. To me both sides make important points. Longer form discussions. I find that

https://bitcoin-audible.castos.com/episodes/take-099-op-return-the-signal-and-the-noise

And

https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bitcoin-explained/episodes/Episode-98-Return-of-the-OP_RETURN-e32i8dn

Actually help both with forming an opinion and to understand that the question is nuanced and more complex that internet shitposting can ever convey.

To reiterate, personal attacks are never ok. If you disagree come prepared to refute the actual points, not to shut people down.

Probeer een beetje te begrijpen wat mensen met dit soort acties willen bereiken.

Intimidatie. Zelfde principe als een granaat voor je door, alleen een mildere stap. Probleem is dat je niet weet wat de volgende stap is.

Ze willen je aanzetten tot anders handelen neem ik aan? Wat een vreemd gedrag.

Ja, ik ben een van de (daadwerkelijke) reviewers van de pull request(s) die de op_return limiet verwijderen. Mijn ack heeft aanzienlijk meer gewicht dan een drive-by commenter. Daarnaast heb ik een vrij uitgesproken en geïnformeerde (toch?) mening over dit onderwerp hier op nostr en mijn podcast.

Ik ben hier niet bepaald gevoelig voor, danwel ik raak er extra gemotiveerd van, maar veel developers zijn een stuk voorzichtiger en zouden hier wel degelijk door ontmoedigd worden. Zie bijvoorbeeld de opmerking op Reddit van achow101 dat ze onmiddellijk op unsubscribe drukte van die eerste pull request.

Daar ben ik inmiddels van op de hoogte. Het probleem zit hem mij vooral in het feit dat ook bitcoin religieuze vormen aanneemt met het daar uit voortvloeiende gedrag. Ieder is vrij om zijn eigen transactie/ opslag middel te kiezen in mijn ogen. Ik vind het vooral verwerpelijk gedrag.

Als je de taproot deur wilt ontlasten door de op_return deur wagenwijd open te zetten, dan krijg je (nmm terecht) tegengas.

Beide deuren zullen gebruikt worden om te spammen. Bitcoin moet hufterproof zijn.

So much for auto translate. 😵‍💫

2025 and most of the translations are still bad. :)

maybe one of luke´s 43 kids

Or some1 did that so you think its Luke or some1 related with him.