Yeah I get what you're saying but I think it still ties back to what people expect in a social network nowadays, which is near-immediate satisfaction upon arrival.

Agreed it's impossible to avoid btc convos regardless though, which makes switching to nostr hard and retention even harder

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Yup, feels like if other communities are to take root it'll have to be in a space where they are fully insulated from the hyperbitcoin community here, as in a technical barrier. Maybe even a soft fork.