I am not satisfied with his unexplained comment that people will continue to be incentivized to produce goods and services even as prices fall for those goods and services. I wouldn’t do the same work for less pay. Would you?

I also have not yet seen him address the fact that wages, too, fall in a deflationary economy, ie entrepreneurial producers earning less and less cannot afford to pay employees their prior wages, so incomes fall. This is not good, unless you are the elite that owns lots of Bitcoin.

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Your expenses will decrease as well, eventually you could retire much earlier than a deflationary currency, if you save properly

Yes, I will be fine, because I own Bitcoin. My comment was about the majority who doesn’t.

The only path to a deflationary economy is if everybody is on a bitcoin standard, all wages paid in bitcoin

That’s right. If you’re only holding a relatively proportionate amount of Bitcoin in such a system, you would still have to work pretty hard to finance your lifestyle.

Realistically, however, you may have to work less hard than in a Fiat system, because you would be more incentivized to only buy and consume the things you actually need

Helpful thoughts!

Important for the dialogue.

I fed your comments into my agent and:

Perhaps the answer is PROFIT MARGIN.

“Why would people keep producing if prices fall?

This seems counterintuitive only when we think in nominal (dollar or fiat) terms. But let’s reframe it using first principles:

Productivity drives deflation: As technology improves and competition increases, it becomes cheaper and easier to produce things. The cost of inputs drops, and more output is created with less labor or capital.

Profit incentive doesn’t vanish—it evolves: Even if prices fall, profit margins can remain the same or improve if input costs drop faster than output prices. In other words, lower prices don’t necessarily mean lower profits. (Adding AI to the mix is really going to power this one forward)

Relative value matters: In a deflationary economy with a hard money standard, the value of money increases over time. So even if you earn less BTC for your work, its purchasing power rises. This preserves or even increases your standard of living.

Would I do the same work for less nominal pay? Not in fiat terms. But if that lower number buys me more, yes.

Deflation is like a store-wide sale. Everyone can shop, so everyone gets lower prices.

In a global free market driven by:

• Open competition

• Technological advancement

• Efficiency gains

• No artificial inflation from central banks

…producers are forced to compete on value, not on access to cheap credit. This leads to lower prices across the board as production becomes more efficient and margins are squeezed to meet global demand.

So a loaf of bread, a phone, a haircut, or a solar panel will get cheaper to produce. Those price reductions benefit all consumers, not just Bitcoiners.

Prices fall for everyone—but Bitcoin holders benefit exponentially, because their savings grow in value while prices drop.”

And more and more ppl will take that leap. I don’t think it’s so much about never having to work again, but more about getting a fair exchange for your work / time /contribution. We will need a lot less to live well going forward.

WDUT?

Well, that is a thoughtful answer. But I am wary of deflation. The Japanese have been experiencing deflation until recently, and they are a nation in decline, so that’s not appealing.

America had a period of deflation1870s-1890s-ish when we were on the gold standard. People who had gold, mostly in New York, prospered. Farmers and rural areas did not have gold and did not prosper. For them, prices for crops fell and they could not earn enough gold certificates (dollars) to buy the things they needed. They got poorer. They formed populist, anti-trust, anti-rich movements, such as an effort to add more dollars into circulation, ie inject liquidity, or monetary inflation, by backing the dollar with silver. There was social upheaval, heated campaigns for president by Williams Jennings Bryan, financial panics, and anti-elite revolution was in the air. Finally, in response to the upheaval, some very rich people formed the Federal Reserve system in secret on Jekyll Island, Georgia, which was the Palm Beach of its day. That began the 60-year unraveling of the gold standard toward the 100% fiat standard we have today.

So, if the harder money standard we had caused social upheaval that led to the fiat system we have, I’m skeptical about claims that deflation is so benign. It certainly wasn’t back then.

I have to agree that deflation isn’t benign for those in the control/ theft / fiat system. The Global Free Market system is not compatible with the fiat system. It will be a hard and difficult time for many.

Not sure if I agree that the hard money standard caused social upheaval as I don’t believe we’ve ever had honest, hard, incorruptible money.

*I believe the fiat system is broken and is getting worse for everyone.

*I believe the Global Free Market is changing this - the protocol repricing that system as we speak.

*I believe it will be difficult for those living fully in the fiat system.

*And I like to believe that like so many of us and growing, more and more ppl will move their energy towards the honest GFM and prosper.

*We all get to choose. If ppl want to stay in the fiat world, I respect that.

It’s just not for me.

Nor me. I bought Bitcoin.