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Jumble is an interesting client that I haven't played around with much. Dev is nostr:nprofile1qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq3vamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3dwfjkccte9eshqup0qqsgzfdez8ksa9xmuvqg5zly3nl9e5xqkpvj8nllj9aw06ra4pqq3qcug5u3k who also made possibly the easiest to install relay app for desktop: Nostr Relay Tray. Great guy, and really responsive, though I think his timezone is opposite of mine here in the western US, because I usually don't hear from him until the next day, and it was like 2am here when he replied. 😂

I am definitely getting your reply. Nostr.wine is a great paid relay. I would encourage you to look into their other relay offerings as well. In particular, filter.nostr.wine, which is kind of like a personalized web-of-trust relay, that allows you to see notes from users you follow plus users they follow in your Global feed, and it pulls those notes from a variety of relays without you needing to have them in your relay list. Additionally, it blasts the notes you write out to several relays, giving you a bit better reach, without having to add all those relays to your list of outbox relays.

If you don't decide to subscribe to filter.nostr.wine, I would recommend adding a couple more popular public relays to your list of "outbox" relays. That is, the ones you write your notes to. A lot of users read from those relays, or they use a relay that pulls notes in from those relays and filters them for spam. If you only post to nostr.wine, only those who have added it as a relay they read from will see your notes, unless their client supports the outbox model, which is a whole other conversation...

I would also recommend adding a popular web-of-trust relay to the relays you read from. Something like wss://wot.utxo.one. nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7ct9va5hxtn4w3ux7tn0dejj7qg4waehxw309an8yetwwvh82arcduhx7mn99uqzpckv7l8jqspl8u4y54dn9rcduwlrs4v2040nxce0m2h0cunvrj8tkauy96 's web-of-trust relay is likely the most popular, because he really pioneered this relay type back when Nostr was being spam attacked late last August and early September. Web-of-trust relays only allow users within the relay owner's web-of-trust to post to them, meaning they are virtually spam free, since most folks don't intentionally follow spammers.

This has been the BEST advice I received so far, and I received some very helpful info, and I thank you. I would zap you if I could, lol. I'll work on that next.

It looks like the relays issue may have solved my missing notes problem. I added the popular relays and others you recommended and all of a sudden I have more people seeing my posts and following.

With that said, I think it's incredible that Nostr would expect new users to figure this stuff out. Is there a plan to 1) fix the bugs and 2) make Nostr user-friendly?

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I think they are working on a some type of solution

So, that's the rough part about an open and decentralized protocol, right? There's no central vision and no authority to provide one.

Anyone can build anything they want and user experience is therefore very dependent on the developers of each individual client.

We might see some change with what nostr:nprofile1qqsgydql3q4ka27d9wnlrmus4tvkrnc8ftc4h8h5fgyln54gl0a7dgsprpmhxue69uhhqun9d45h2mfwwpexjmtpdshxuet5qy28wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hszrthwden5te0dehhxtnvdakqc267ea is proposing here:

nostr:nevent1qqstxwl0y86ylj4yh39hmtjjfssn8lcamtk4d6nn6lcqzk3pkexne9gpr9mhxue69uhhwmm59e38y6t8dp6xymmvwshxuet59upzpq35r7yzkm4te5460u00jz4djcw0qa90zku7739qn7wj4ralhe4zqvzqqqqqqyv9737r

More cooperation to improve the protocol and applications built around it would be welcomed, for sure.

I'm a but of a weirdo in that I enjoy trying out new and unrefined technologies, and particularly those that look promising for improving freedom. Yet, I know that most folks aren't like me. They want the freedom, but they also want a good experience.

To some extent freedom will always come with more responsibility than what folks are used to, but good design and sensible defaults can also help with the learning curve immensely.

Like I always say, I'm willing to suffer through the 9 circles of hell for a truly decentralized protocol. I end up getting shadowbanned - never banned which would have been a mercy - everywhere I go. But I have to say that Nostr is challenging even that, LOL. I'm sure that having tech skills makes it easier, and the community seems kind and willing to help which could offset any screams of frustration.

we'll be here to help as long as you need 🤙

have you tried yakihonne? its been best experience for me, and has excellent desktop, android and iphone client.

https://github.com/YakiHonne/yakihonne-mobile-app

My zap wallet won't work at yaki....any idea?

Seconded, nostr:npub1yzvxlwp7wawed5vgefwfmugvumtp8c8t0etk3g8sky4n0ndvyxesnxrf8q is an excellent client, and the developers are very friendly and open to feedback.

I'll have to ask them why coinos not working there.

as far as we know coinos works properly using the nwc connection string, can we know exactly what happened to you ? (from yakihonne)

When zap a dialogue box pops up and says waiting but never goes through. Everything else works great. I'll try again tonight and let you know here if works now.

Sometimes, the network relay takes sometime to respond thats why it golds howegee u can double check it could be passed normally.

I can zap myself to test on other clients but not at YakiHonne? Zap button is shaded out, is that correct? I zapped you and went through, can you please zap me small amount to test?

sure yes, we disabled zapping for self accounts 🙏

Great, thank you for letting me know. All working great!

Zapped 🫡

I tried it but my zap wallet doesn't work there. I'll just stick with noStrudel, Coracle works okay too but overall noStrudel for me.

It's better this way...

Which relay was the issue Violet?

I have no idea. I just added a bunch of relays, massive data usage be damned, lol.

Lol 😂 so do you see more of the notes you are missing?

Excellent question. My previous missing posts are STILL MISSING.

But so far, after adding all of the relays and their mother... my published notes are showing up.

Oh my that's great news 😁 for the new notes. That's a bummer about the old notes though

No, it's better this way.