Good question.
What problem would a Nostr group solve? 🤔
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No log in like telegram.
No slowdowns with simplex groups since it doesn't need to be quite that secure.
Best of both.
Yeah, I feel like someone seriously concerned with security really should put up a firewall or use SimpleX, or there should be some way to wall off a relay effectively and programmatically.
Yup. That would be rad.
You arguably won't get there with a nostr relay. You are trusting TLS at best. SimpleX does give you that advantage tmk. You could require VPN I suppose...
Maybe we should just use AUTH on group relays to create exclusivity, remove broadcasting, and abandon the privacy promise of encryption?
Someone malicious could just screen-shot stuff or copy-paste the raw json, anyhow.
A private relay would be required here to properly enable AUTH and trust that the relay is authing against a configured ACL for your group. In that case yeah don't see the reason for encryption since TLS between client/relay and group messages are private to that relay behind auth.
And then you can add/remove people at relay-level, which works quickly and smoothly, and doesn't require a fake-admin-npub as a crutch.
We just need relay admin UIs??
We already have a good one, that is OS.
That's what he's running here: https://relay.tools/
I guess a group is less about chatting (we have that) and more about a collection of related events/notes being associated with a subset of people we've decided we want to talk about them with.
We usually start off with a little clique and copy-paste links in from Nostr, but direct Nostr embedding would be nice. And some way to mark events as belonging to that group (like calendars), maybe with a label.
Maybe we just want better SimpleX-Nostr integration. But they tried that and said it couldn't work, right?