Core v30: You must relay spam now!
Me:
Discussion
Isn’t it true that you would only need 1 person to run Core v30 and if/when they get a block accepted, then everyone else running Knots will be forced to download that spam block even if the Knots filters would have otherwise prevented it?
it's true
There’s a difference between spam being in the timechain and you choosing to relay spam in the sanctity of your own mempool.
It’s like saying, why not litter in the river since you can’t stop other people littering in the river anyways?
It’s a difference between telling people what they are allowed to speak and relaying information
But they pay for block space. So it’s not litter
The prince of Tanzania used the email protocol to contact me so it could impossibly be spam
Is email traffic limited such that only the highest bidders get their emails processed?
Your example is unintelligent.
Do better. This is bitcoin.
To say there is no such thing as spam on bitcoin is completely naive. Most Acorelogists even argue that to prevent "spam" in its worst form (fake public keys) they'd rather have spam in the form of op_return.
I understand the point you are making and I will of course continue to run Knots. I’m just pointing out that when Core v30 says “You must relay spam now!” that’s exactly what will happen. Consensus has been replaced by Highest Bidder. In this case Citrea is getting the OP_RETURN limit removed by paying Peter Todd to initiate the proposal. What are we going to do about this in order to stop both Citrea and Peter Todd? We need to make an example of them!
You don't have to relay spam, it's your own choice. Same as miners who include harmful arbitrary data. Common sense will prevail, belive in the good!
nostr:npub1vpl8x2cj5ujdtcgjen2t5873nrzt2m0nepcn883qpyq6tgnd2cuqnxwu0p Archival nodes relay the entire blockchain. If even 1 person runs Core v30, then everyone else must relay the latest block. We need to stop hoping people like Peter Todd will make good choices on our behalf. There must be a way for consensus to be the standard.
I don't get your point? A miner decides what goes into the chain, and nodes influence what TX reach miners through the public peer to peer network. The goal is not to censor illicit arbitrary data TX but to rate limit them such that it's severely dissincentvised to do them.
A few bad actors with open filters won't be a problem. The occasional garbage TX will be mind, but that's okay.
If you run Knots, you will not be relaying any spam. You will be downloading whatever spam has already accumulated on the timechain, but you won’t be actively increasing it.
So if I want to spam and I run Core, this changes nothing and nobody can stop me? So is this a path toward eventual hard fork?
I've been pretty pathetic to this debate(I run knots because of DATUM). But now I'm being pushed into knotzism
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