Yesterday someone told me that the dollar is backed by gold and they can't just make new dollars.

Read that again, they said is.

That is the state of financial education.

We are so fucking early. We have a lot of education to do to get where we need to be.

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Just as soon as o thought I was late to the party, you to & post quotes like this.

Serenity now

information asymetry is a real bitch for people on the losing end

When it clicks for you, you can’t help but think you are late, and that it is so obvious what’s going on that you must be behind.

But we really are early!

fucking hell man how can people still believe this garbage

They say it out load. They have been, for years.

The dollar is kinda sorta backed by gold.

You can go to the mint & get gold at "free market" rates, which is redemption (except that proper backing should be at a fixed rate).

That is not how "backed by" works. The federal reserve does not need more gold to create more dollars. To define it your way the dollar is backed by cow turds too.

Backing means the issuer redeems the currency for the backing asset

The issuer here is nominally the Federal Reserve but in practice the US Federal government

So the Federal Government offering a real asset for dollars is a form of backing (with the caveats that gold redemption is not at a fixed rate & it's a different agency)

I'm not aware of a USFG plan to offer cow turds for dollars

Where should I as a private citizen go to swap cash for a few gold pamps directly from the federal government?

https://catalog.usmint.gov/coins/coin-programs/american-eagle-coins/#oos=true

But you're better off going through one of their 7 or so officially approved bullion dealers, since the Mint individual sales are higher premium & focused on proofs & modern "numismatic" coins as opposed to bullion simple

Eg APMEX, Miles Franklin

140% of spot at US Mint is clearly over priced even for numismatic value.

Apmex and so on are private businesses exchanging goods, not the government.

I agree. But, you *can* turn dollars into specie directly at the Mint, which is (with the caveats I mentioned) redemption.

If Federal Reserve Notes are theoretically worth 42.5 $/tz, then gold at 2000 $/tz is dramatically overpriced. 2700 $/tz is even more so, but obviously by lesser proportion.

The official brokers are private, but they get the current coins directly from the mint - you can order mint-sealed tubes of current-year coins. Does the fact that dealers act as a middle-man actually matter economically?

https://www.apmex.com/product/258634/2023-american-silver-eagles-20-coin-mintdirect-tube

If you refuse to see the difference between allowing a market to exist and a guarantee that a bill can and will be exchanged for a fixed amount that does not change during its lifetime, I cannot help you.

There's a difference, as I have twice acknowledged.

But US mint buying back "dollars" is not merely "allowing a market to exist".

The fact that someone somewhere wants to give up gold for "dollars" is not backing or relevant. The fact that the issuing government of those "dollars" will make that trade is relevant.

Everyone, except the people who stand to profit from printing USD and you apparently, agrees that to be backed means a fixed exchange rate and that every dollar could be exchanged without running out of gold or changing the exchange rate. That is not the current state.

Do we need to dig to the middle of the World to find more gold?