Namecalling is all you have so far, didn't address a single thing, and complete projection. Nice.
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Calling a chicken “a chicken” is not name calling, it’s species identification. And as for projection, what you perceive in your minds eye, the screen on which reality is projected, is not a movie; other people are real. They are not figments of your imagination or characters in the movie playing in your head.
If you ever come to understand this, you will wake up and accept the proposition WoS makes, and why it is so useful and perhaps soon to be one of the worlds biggest wallets.
Just this morning I had to do tech support for someone using a wallet with poor channel management. WoS is well managed and consumer focussed; always has capacity, meaning no one is frustrated, and can be brought onboard first time, no problems. If the people who want “Non Custodial" to become the Standard, they’re going to have to learn what it means to serve other people and not the imaginary fantasy world In their heads.
You people are refusing to face reality. You refuse to build and run services, refuse to listen to consumers, refuse to help others, bury your heads in the sand and pretend the Bitcoin is some sort of game. It’s pitiful.
And you’re not going to like the future of Bitcoin, which you will have no part in creating By your own choice…or was it your choice at all?
From my perspective you are the one in a cult. But those claims don't add much to the conversation or get to the crux without any argument or explanation does it?
Besides the custodial (!!!) aspect of WoS it is CLOSED SOURCE. How much further can you get from Bitcoin? It's *absolutely* retarded that I even have to point this out to you.
You keep saying WoS makes a proposition but never explicitly say what that is. Convenience? At the expense of major core value props of Bitcoin? Let's just stick to fiat then. Much more convenient and bigger network effect.
Centralized ledgers are a dime a dozen and what started this whole mess. It isn't a solution. It is a lazy shortcut. Illusion of using Bitcoin. You're lying to them. You aren't onboarding people to Bitcoin with IOUs. You are the one refusing to face reality.
I'm not preventing anyone from continuing to make and use custodial solutions like WoS by pointing out the irony and idiocy of it. Have at it! When users are rugged or WoS is targeted by regulators you'll remember this. But hey it's your choice. Do whatever the fuck you want.
“CLOSED SOURCE” the more you talk, the more cultish you sound! Bitcoin’s utility has nothing to do with Open Source; this is something you’ve read…or have been told to believe online, and you’ve chosen to make it part of your personality.
Bitcoin doesn’t have core value propositions; the cult you are in does.
I’m afraid that between the two of us, I am the one facing reality; the reality of serving others. You have no steak in the outcome, don’t do anything to help anyone and spend your time fantasising about OPEN SOURCE.
You said “Rugged”. This proves you’re in the cult! And don’t swear…it’s NASTY.
Exactly. This is what it boils down to 😂
Remember, you are the one who started the "cult" namecalling in this convo. Not me.
Telling the truth isn’t “name calling”. That’s like saying calling an Apple an Apple is “name calling”. If the shoe fits, wear it. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it’s a duck.
You’re talking like you’re deeply enmeshed in a cult. It’s quite logical therefore, to notice this.
Obviously you don’t believe you’re in a cult. But can you be sure? Please watch “inception”. It may help!
Ok, then when I also say you are in a cult I'm not namecalling either. Just identifying you. Obviously you don’t believe you’re in a cult. But can you be sure?
...see how stupid this is? It's tangential. Even if I steelman you and say I'm in a cult, someone in a cult can say things that are true or present valid arguments. My cult status is irrelevant.
Refute the central points being made.
This is the “everything is nuanced” and “everything is a matter of perspective” doctrine, (Nuance and Perspective Doctrine). If you really believed what you believed was true and were not in a Cult, it wouldn’t matter to you that Wallet of Satoshi works in a way you have been instructed is wrong; you would not be triggered by it, or by people who recommend it.
Instead, in a Pavlovian response, you repeat on trigger, all the things you’ve been trained to say. It looks bad. Like like you’re part of a cult, and so, it’s a fair guess that you’re in a Cult.
Your cult status is very relevant. Being brainwashed is not a positive state of mind, believe it or not. Leave the Bitcoin cult. Embrace Wallet of Satoshi!
+1 orange pillers are def in a cult
And you can tell that they have no interest in spreading Bitcoin around the world. They’re interested only in uniformity of opinion, everyone using the same language, absolute conformity in behaviour and essentially being one with the group.
Thankfully, Bitcoin spreading everywhere doesn’t depend on people playing dress up, “Podcasters”, ugly Americans and other clown show Cult dynamics. The world will be Bitcoinized.
The question is, “who is going to do it?”. People who refuse to take risk won’t do it. Cult Leader speech police who think Bitcoin is about debates on how many satoshis can fit on the head of a pin won’t do it. Memes won’t do it.
If it were the case that the Bitcoin Cult could work to spread Bitcoin, there would already be billions of people using it. But that isn’t even their ambition. All they want is unquestioning compliance to the cult rules; they don’t care about Bitcoin winning; Bitcoin, for them, literally is Twitter (and now Nostr).
These westerners are like the Eloi in “The Time Traveller”; insipid, detached, emotionless, vapid (“stay humble, stack sats”), weak, human cattle. Compare and contrast with Nigerians, operating in a country where the Government is openly hostile to Bitcoin, and yet it is spreading like wildfire there, making it the number two country on earth for Bitcoin.
Nigerians aren’t interested in Bitcoin Memes and other Eloi infantilism, and yet it has spread rapidly. What are they doing there in Jos, Abuja, Kano and other places, and why is Bitcoin so popular there? No one is asking this amongst the Bitcoin Cult…you can pick your own reason why.
And “Bits” not “Sats”!
You do talk alot of
Longwinded nonsense don’t you . JFC ! There are alot of people working on both custodial and non custodial solutions to scale Bitcoin. It’s just plainly obvious non custodial is better for self sovereignty in a very centralised world. That’s not cultist, that is freedom to interact
you're just comparing different realities (Nigeria with "first world"). Bitcoinization will happen with different speeds and via different messages and with different means. What do you think is needed (or better what is missing) in the "first world"?
"And you can tell that they have no interest in spreading Bitcoin around the world"
Says the person accusing me of being in a cult 😂
I'm not trying to "spread" bitcoin in the same way I'm not trying to prosyletize hammers, Mr Cultman. If someone is interested they will find it. If someone needs it they will use it.
I find this "hyperbitcoinization" talk naive (and ironically cultish). Crypto like Bitcoin thrive in p2p black and gray market. The state is not going to to allow unhampered white market use with businesses and institutions. Any white market use will be under growing restrictions and become more and more regulated until it is nearly identical to fiat.
There are no “different realities” there is only one reality. It’s like claiming WhatsApp adoption will happen at different rates, “Because Nigerian phone calls are different to Australian phone calls”.
In fact money is more fundamental and universal to life than calls are, so if the utility is there, adoption should be more or less the same everywhere if the playing fills is level (which it clearly isn’t).
What Nigeria and El Salvador both show is that Bitcoin can be used as legal tender and serve the needs of entire countries flawlessly. This is a matter of will now, not specification.
Thou doth project too much, methinks