This is true, domain names can be seized but in general still convey a positive signal
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Anything can be siezed
Please explain how a secret can be seized
You were talking about domains being seized. Relays can be siezed too. Your secret only gets you data if it is stored somewhere. For example you can store events on a server. You can store events on many servers. You can store events on a relay. You can store events on many relays. They can all be siezed. It is true that some more abstract things, like colours, or dreams, cant be siezed.
Right because you answered saying anything can be seized, and the whole point of nostr is that it's defended by a secret
We can agree to differ here. The whole point of nostr has nothing to do with defending anything with a secret. Maybe bitcoin, not nostr. Nostr is about sending signed notes and other stuff from one user to another. That's it. Relays, domains and servers can all store signed data, and can all be siezed. If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
Ok man no need to use that satoshi phrase 😂
Sure, we can agree to disagreee. Nostr definitely lets you defend your identity and data (otherwise there would be no point in building what we're building). And in practical terms it's impossible for a powerful actor to seize the entirety of the infrastructure across the globe where you keep copies of your signed notes
What im saying is that server, domains and relays all have this property. Nostr is not special in that regard.
Sure, in theory, but what exactly is a server? nostr can be extended to be run over radio, P2P tech, etc
But even with our current tech, no censor can play the infinite whack-a-mole game of nostr. It's a losing game
A server is a regular server in the cloud. There are millions. You can write a server with your keypair, im sure you know. Just as you can write to relays. You can write events to multiple servers, and you can write events to multiple relays. There are not "infinite" relays, there are 100s. But there are millions of servers. So servers are actually more resilient than relays. It's the fact that events can live anywhere that allows replication and resilients, not properties or relays, http, websockets or domains.
Regardless of the final conclusions, I much prefer a security model that is predicated on me keeping a secret than relying on someone else’s promise that they implemented the proper security controls.
the key difference is delegation, if I sign a tx it cant be faked, if I say to binance to sign a tx in theory it could be the same unless at some point it is no more the same. Dns is delegation technology and a custodial solution designed when there where no alternatives. DHTs over relays signed by the party we want to communicate with (not the intermediary) need to replace dns, or at this point even twitter would be "good enough".