Simple answer - places with strict gun laws have far lower gun-related crimes.

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Except they don't.

nostr:npub1g3827ewz6d23rlgdhkaslc78gyule52ymcqdyt2hsxdwtlw8dt5q7dfpvg wanna step in with data on what states have most gun crime?

I don't even need data, this is public information and to make this statement is willful ignorance.

*The cities of Chicago and Detroit enter the chat*

Not to mention, how the fuck can anyone morally justify the use of force on another individual to limit their capacity to defend themselves? Someone who feels that way and I will never see eye to eye. We can nitpick and cherry pick statistics all day long, and either side can make data appear however they like depending on how it's presented. At the end of the day, no one has the right to enforce their will or desires on me or anyone else.

I don't think you should own a fucking iPhone, you don't see me asking the state to take it from someone forcibly.

> At the end of the day, no one has the right to enforce their will or desires on me or anyone else.

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I've always thought like this and was actually shocked when I realised it was somehow controversial.

Statists have slave mentality I don't even know how else there is to put it.

Agreed! It's mass Stockholm Syndrome. The world is just a hndfull of huge cults at war with each other over the few minor ways they disagree.

Geez… there’s so much wrong with that reply…

1) Context - the need for a gun in Manhattan is very different than the need for a gun in the Alaska wilderness. I’ve lived in NYC for over 30 years there’s literally zero need for the average person to have a gun for defensive purposes here. If you scream for help someone will hear you and the NYPD will be there moments later. But in places like the Alaska wilderness you’re stupid to wander outdoors without a gun.

2) The type of gun - almost no one wants to outlaw regular shot guns or hunting rifles. The issue is guns that can be concealed and high capacity automatic weapons. Lumping them together muddles the discussion.

3) All sorts of aspects of your life are reasonably regulated already. Take cars - there are mandatory safety features. Speed limits. Seatbelt laws. Etc. The idea that we can’t discuss the equivalent for guns is absurd.

You have no Idea what you are talking about. Automatic weapons are already banned for almost everybody.

This guy has his head so far up his own or someone else's ass that's there's zero benefit to me having t is debate. Statist boot lickers gonna state, and he's not worth my time or energy.

I carry. Will carry. Don’t care what anyone else does. No time to convince anyone (someone smart said the last part, I stole it).

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