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:P 4mo ago 💬 1

How is that not user choice?

Bitcoin core is making decisions that node runners do not agree with and forcing their decisions by removing the settings

That is Fed behavior that’s handcuffing the node runner to Bitcoin core’s ideology.

Talk about dodging questions.

There is only one question

Why did they remove the user settings?

For the record the only reason I switched to knots is because Core was going to and has since I switched, removed user settings.

I don’t give a fuck who wrote what the code base is 99% the same except with Knots I have more choice.

Bitcoin core is literally going down the same path ethereum went down.

When I first switch to Knots someone I know from Nostr who had run an ethereum validator in the past told me the same stuff you and JB have been saying. I asked him why he stopped running his validator and he said the storage got to big. I said thank you and thought the discussion was over. He still didn’t understand so explained to him like a 5 year old.

If the blockchain gets to big to fast no one will run it expect for Feds, Institutions, and spammers and Bitcoin will fully evolve into Bit Suit.

That’s what core is championing for a bloated blockchain covered with spam.

Core is aligned with Ethereum people like J Slopp.

In fact ethereum puts the “e” in Core.

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Scrotus 4mo ago 💬 3

Are you saying the reason core 30 is bad is because the amount of storage required to run a nodewill be too high?

:P 4mo ago

How do you not get it?

Core needs a majority of node runners to relay their spam so they have good odds of being included in the next block. If nodes do not relay the spam it’s harder for them to gain inclusion.

Core 30 is only bad if everyone blindly runs it.

I honestly wouldn’t care but to me this is what state captured Bitcoin looks like.

This is a good hill to die on.

This is why they are so hostile and angry that people are standing up and walking away.

Don’t fall for their lies.

Send a message run knots

Scrotus 4mo ago

So is that a yes?

JackTheMimic 4mo ago

Are you reading a completely separate text then responding, or being obtuse? This is so weird. I have spoken with voice to a lot of these people and now it seems like people are reading from a sales script.

I want a sharp knife to cut my beef

-Do you worry about intruders because a knife wouldn't even stop them anyway!

No, I want to cut my food.

-You COULD cut your food with a spoon, do you really trust cutlery made by a guy who accidentally cut his thumb once!?

What the fuck is happening?

Scrotus 4mo ago

So is that a yes? I'm still confused ..

JackTheMimic 4mo ago

In a technical sense mempool allocations are strictly RAM. So storage has nothing to do with it. But, again this is a nonsense argument conflating two separate issues. Relaying transactions and relaying verified blocks. The node does both but one is protocol forced and the other is not. That is where the choice lies.

Scrotus 4mo ago 💬 1

he said:

"When I first switch to Knots someone I know from Nostr who had run an ethereum validator in the past told me the same stuff you and JB have been saying. I asked him why he stopped running his validator and he said the storage got to big. I said thank you and thought the discussion was over. He still didn’t understand so explained to him like a 5 year old.

If the blockchain gets to big to fast no one will run it expect for Feds, Institutions, and spammers and Bitcoin will fully evolve into Bit Suit. "

So I don't think I'm conflating anything. I'm just responding to what was said. From reading this it sounds like disk space is the issue which is what I asked for clarification on and again it's sounding like a "yes".

He also said

"Core is aligned with Ethereum people like J Slopp."

Which is... Pretty funny honestly. And accurate.

I think I get it. Disk space is one large issue but the bigger picture is worrying that Bitcoin becomes ethereum. If that is the issue I'm not so worried about that either because ethers original sin was being premined, then it was the dao rollback demonstrating it's mutability and lack of centralization, and final nail in the coffin was proof of work. (And not to mention of course selling out to jp Morgan).

Bitcoin has none of that baggage and to think it's going to turn into eth overnight by removing an irrelevant field seems way overblown. I can name dozens more reasons why that would never happen but that would take all day. Imma touch some grass

JackTheMimic 4mo ago

I took that quote to mean, the proliferation of spam creates bloated UTXO sets which is a side point not to do with the issue of choice. The Ethereum connection, I too don't see that. I basically give ethereum the "I don't think of you at all" Don Draper meme out of 10.

The ultimate problem is that there was no hard cap (outside of blocksize) for the amount of arbitrary data carrier field. That is a massive flaw especially considering visual data of certain kinds is very illegal for those who even possess it making Bitcoin by extension illegal to host. Even outside of legality, I don't think most people would willingly host CSAM on their FINANCIAL node. Seems like a bad use of data.

:P 4mo ago

I never said it would happen overnight I actually implied it would take decades by stating most node runners aren’t even born yet.

You haven’t looked at the code and are talking out your ass.

Also you are demonstrating that you haven’t spent enough time thinking about long term consequences.

Core is on offense and knots is on defense but core has been sacrificing their pieces and will have lost all their pawns by the end game and will ultimately lose.

forwardsteps 🪢 4mo ago

See https://youtu.be/JLtmSzeLXOU then https://youtu.be/dMvpRVHr8Lc 🧡✨

Marcelinho 4mo ago 💬 1

in my opinion, that's the only really good reason! storage space because that's an architectural decision against the plebs

Dave🐸 4mo ago 💬 2

run knots or keep the old version of core.

there is no forced auto update removal of settings for existing core nodes.

You run a node knowing the block size is 4MB.

:P 4mo ago

Knots is closer to Core v25 then Core v30 is.

Knots is more current and maintained why run an outdated version no devs are paying attention to?

Dave🐸 4mo ago

Sorry, forgot to link the core reasoning for removing limit on new version:

https://bitcoincore.org/en/2025/06/06/relay-statement/