Zaps destroy lightning payment privacy, now the wallets know exactly who is paying

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Default zaps should be private or anonymous.

Use separate wallet for zapping

When you zap your pubkey is attached

That’s what I’m saying, use separate LN wallet that is known to be compromised

Your Nostr public key is attached. Correct?

Yeah, I think Zeus said something about not adopting the nip yet because of privacy or something like that #[2]

We can't stop people from using zaps with Zeus but we're trying to inform people of the privacy issues and haven't turned the reporting element on for our profile

4 zapathons later... a bit too late

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Good point though!

Definitely a zap for thought...

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This is why anon/private Zaps *have* to be the default in Nostr clients.

Until then we're undermining all of the privacy provided by Lightning for practically no reason. While amounts need to be displayed in Nostr clients for effective social usage, no info on payee or comment should be a core part of things unless a user opts-in to revealing that info.

We have a chance to make privacy the default.

This is why anon/private Zaps *have* to be the default in Nostr clients.

Until then we're undermining all of the privacy provided by Lightning for practically no reason. While amounts need to be displayed in Nostr clients for effective social usage, no info on payee or comment should be a core part of things unless a user opts-in to revealing that info.

We have a chance to make privacy the default.

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I don’t get the point of private zaps. The only thing that makes them valuable is that they are from people you know to people you know. Otherwise you should probably assume they’re fake.

Public tipping (a normie term for zapping)

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Lightning payment privacy was always bad - public zaps just made it worse.

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Would putting a zaplink (a unique url) that directs to a Lnurl help with privacy?

No. Anon/private zaps would help though.

how tho

not with private zaps! I should write that up…

It is to be assumed

So Nostr is destroying Lightning?

Isn’t that the whole point? I think the ideal is to make most payment privately, but sometimes, make public payments. Zaps are the ideal public payment. Just don’t buy your coffee with a zap.

When commerce on Nostr?

Commerstr

plebian.market runs on Nostr but it's not very lively yet.

LNBits already launched their Market extension and soon with NOSTR support (Diagon Alley).

I will reward you 1BTC if you can trace me back to my real identity and my IP/location after I will send you a 100 sats zap.

x.x.107.252 You can send the 1BTC here: bc1qlqjtx3wusx8k5xexx63vlseu7fd7x545s7zgpc

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whats his name?

It is enough to connect to a relay once without a proxy

Did you find me already? Or is just a supposition?

I am not an administrator of any relay

Even anon zaps?

Yes 😔

fix?