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the choice to upgrade to non-custody is the main point, I don't know why this is so difficult

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so it's a build-in custodial wallet. right.

No, it's not a built-in wallet. It's the choice to use whatever you want via NWC. This includes a user using a NWC enabled Cashu wallet.

cashu people don't want user choice, they want to force their "solution" onto everyone.

in your head maybe

i must have hallucinated this

https://bitcoinforsignal.org/

there are those who build, and those who get angry at others who build.

try building.

good one

This is such a tired and overly simplistic way of deflecting good faith criticism. Yes, there are people in the world who just want to destroy things. I don't think that's nostr:nprofile1qqsr9cvzwc652r4m83d86ykplrnm9dg5gwdvzzn8ameanlvut35wy3gpz3mhxw309aex2mrp0yhx5c34x5hxxmmd9uqsuamnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0dshszythwden5te0dehhxarj9ekxzmny9u0ljp2l

haha I just love running nodes and it sucks that I wouldn't be able to use the payments in signal if this were adopted. mostly just a selfish thing.

You use payments in Signal currently?

No but it would be nice if they integrated lightning

any day now

I run a node. And I use Cashu in Signal. Crazy, I know.

good faith, nope.

Please explain this devious bad faith scheme of mine, whatever that means

I’m acting in bad faith because i don’t want to run software i don’t need. Ok bud

we have a joke that whenever anyone demos something cool with cashu, it's only a matter of time until jb55 hate-posts "soon I'll integrate non-custodial lightning node (soon TM)".

any day now!

I feel like im talking to a child who can’t handle an ounce of criticism. Grow up.

nobody cares, we don't need your approval.

why would anyone want my approval? I am here posting my opinions on technical topics. If you don’t like it you can kindly go bother someone else.

you reply a lot for someone who doesn't care

I think the point is if you don’t want to use it, you don’t have to. If you don’t like it, that is also ok. If you think it’s a bad trade-off refer to point 1.

Many users will use it and think it’s better than existing custodial options while making bitcoin more accessible.

you are describing nwc, which would allow us all to be compatible. They aren’t interested in integrating nwc, they want to implement their terrible solutions into everything and trick people into thinking it’s bitcoin.

got it. So that is your main gripe? Is there any argument not to allow them to talk to each other ?

we built an amazing p2p layer for sending and receiving bitcoin micropayments payments in a trustless manner. cashu folks are trying to subvert that and simply use it as a rails for doing token transfers between their nodes and convince people their tokens are bitcoin.

if app interfaces are coded to cashu instead of L2, then bitcoin micropayments effectively turns into free banking. Why people think that’s a good idea is beyond me.

I would rather go back and work on L1 or new L2 solutions if this is the route we’re going.

pure bullshit

how so

coinos wallet is bitcoin but cashu isn't lol.

Where did i say coinos is bitcoin, or can you only argue strawmen today. nwc is the point 🤦‍♂️

cashu wallets have NWC, does that make them bitcoin?

nwc in the client my guy

“we built an amazing p2p layer for sending and receiving bitcoin micropayments payments in a trustless manner.”

got it so it's NWC with a default custodial wallet?

Cashu wallets support NWC.

NWC is just a simple wallet API, comparing it to cashu makes no sense at.

I wouldn't say it's default. It's the advertised choice for people to get started with one tap setup.

I know they do, which is why I mentioned it.

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