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Well thanks for your post although I don't agree with the things that you propose forward. The idea that 1 individual should have empathy for all things around is a nonsensical idea because at the core of the idea it is that you should have empathy for all living things no matter what and regardless of their creation and or origin. Now if one is to take a realistic and rational look at the amount of time 1 has 1 only has limited time on this planet therefore 1 cannot have unlimited empathy for all things on this earth ,If empathy is the basis for your choice of how you live your life then you are placing an empathy on the things that are outside of yourself thus neglecting the things that you choose for yourself in order to appear virtuous or in harmony with what you believe is mother Earth.

One could argue that in order for you to have empathy in any way shape or form 1 must have a realistical and logical awareness of oneself if you neglect thyself how can you have empathy for that which is around you. All basis of life is created from energy from that of another source. One could also argue that all plants are a form of life and if you truly believe that which you propose that all life is worthy of life Then you wouldn't even eat food that is of plant-based so if you were to truly follow the logic that you were proposing you would literally start yourself to death

Essencial 1y ago

thank you for your thoughts. Yes, I understand what you mean. There is no perfection here...It is also true that plants are living beings. After all, we all come from the same source. But plants do not have a nervous system like animals...And so they cannot experience pain in the same way. Maybe pain in a different way? I don'r know... But if we assume that plants actually feel pain, then it is even worse to eat animals, because the animals have to be fed plants first. So a person who eats animals causes twice as much suffering.

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pollyanna 1y ago

we are trying to see plants and animals and humans with a previous idea in mind. even with a nevous system, each living being experience pain in a different way and I notice in myself that my thoughts and beliefs affects a lot of my perception of pain. while giving birth to my babies I felt some kind of pain, but I think it had a lot to do with my mind and my traumas and not because my body was designed for that (and even though I could spend 30 hours there, feeling it was the most incredible thing I had been through) - I saw other women giving birth and some of them felt pleasure. I don't see pain as a bad thing in itself. there are many labels in this talk. I don't know the answers but I think none can give an answer for anybody else but themselves - all we can do is really investigate within ourselves and see where are our choices coming from. but I certainly agree that the way we treat animals (and humans) doesn't seem healthy and painless.

and about compassion, I think it only can be true when it comes from a kind of eternity feeling - so it really is for everything. but when we feel compassion, it's not felt by the individual or the ego, although it is included and can be aware of the experience.

how do you feel about these words?

Essencial 1y ago

I love the deepness of your writing! Thank you so much 🙏🏽💜 I will feel into it and come back later to give you my opinion. I feel far too tired today to accomplish anything remotely intelligent...😴🤪

pollyanna 1y ago

listening to your body seems to be a very intelligent thing 💜

thank you for seeing the writings with deep eyes.