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There are no free things in this universe. You always pay in time, money, energy or freedom! Prove me wrong, I beg you! 🐶🐾🫡

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 2y ago

atheists think there isn't when people die having got away with epic crimes of economic distortion and robbery

this is why christianity, and other religions that claim that there is a reckoning in the afterlife, like the Egyptian goddess Maat, weighing the hearts of the newly dead against a feather, tend to gain a big following

we might be wrong thinking someone is keeping score, but life is better for the masses when the score is being kept, so it's a useful lie, if it is a lie

i don't think it's a lie, but i don't pretend to know exactly how the reckoning is done, i just think it must be, because if the universe is based on math then it also must have balance in the equations

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The Fishcake (nostr.build) 2y ago

Yes, everything leads to maximum entropy, no magic 🐶🐾🫡

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 2y ago

if this were true then there would be no life on this planet

it just gets more and more expensive to do it the more complex the ordered system becomes

as Terence Mckenna expresses it: Nature is a novelty conserving engine

novelty is just another word for rare new structure

there is nothing novel about disorder, nobody pays you for giving them less order

The Fishcake (nostr.build) 2y ago

That’s a false assumption, because complexity accelerates entropy. Look it up, I am not imagining it 🐶🐾🫡

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 2y ago

i said specifically that the greater the structure (size and order) the lower the frequency of its occurrance, and what you speak of is the effect of this pattern

god bless nassim taleb but he is correct when he says that the greater the amount of order in a system the higher the cost of maintaining it, or conversely, the bigger the system, the easier it is to destroy it

the bitcoin blockchain is an example of a complex system that has elements that maintain and accumulate order, and of course, its energy budget must increase in proportion with the amount of structured data it maintains

The Fishcake (nostr.build) 2y ago

Dispensing energy is exactly what entropy is. And you always get less than you input. Always. 🐶🐾🫡

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 2y ago

entropy is information that is hard to predict emerging from an exchange

sometimes it really can be caled "negentropy" because very occasionally shuffling a system causes order to increase

this pattern is what taleb calls "antifragile"

only materialists who disregard the presence of information and its influence on physics don't get this

it's central to understanding what the very notion of "economic growth" actually means, not the stupid NGU of fiat but the actual reduction of inefficiencies

negentropy is the general category of all things that have value and what mckenna was calling "novelty"

The Fishcake (nostr.build) 2y ago

Pseudoscience IMHO, but yet again. There is no point of us arguing when neither of us are open to a change 🐶🐾🫡🫂

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 2y ago

if you understood how AI proximity hash recognition systems worked you would get what i'm talking about

shuffling a system does not always lower it's structure, or there would be no order even at the nano scale

structure that builds engines of gathering structure together has a way of gradually gathering systems that conserve structure and eventually find ways to increase it

this in no way invalidates the point that energy is lost in this process