Your premise is not what's happening. People charge electric cars at work throughout the day and the load is balanced by "market" pricing between "cheaper at work" vs "cheaper at home". Second, the charging is distributable over night, which is actually convenient for consumption during time when there's not much other consumption from energy provider perspective.

I agree that push to electric for ESG reasons is stupid and will hurt the poorest the most.

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when I get home I plug my phone in. every day. because if I don't I will forget. regardless of how long my phone charged during the day, the phones battery capacity has diminished over time. I gave to plug in more often over time. the way I see it, most people will plug in when they get home. just as you say, they'll plug in when they get to work, so spikes in consumption will be at just before the hour in the mornings too. these spikes in consumption may be short but if demanding, is the infrastructure ready?

You may have noticed that the phones now do "smart charging", where they actually target to have 100% charge in the 7am next day rather than ASAP. This can be disabled, but it improves the battery health - i.e. the battery can then have longer lifespan.

so my car won't be ready to go until 7am? so if I decide to leave in the middle of the night to drive somewhere unexpected, my car might not be ready? yeah, that won't work for most. good luck with that.

If using smart charging, your car will have e.g. 50% charge. If you don't like this, you can disable or configure it the way you want. Like you can let it charge asap and be ready to go 200 miles in the middle of the night and that's ok too.

I think you're giving the masses a lot of credit. I think most aren't going to configure anything. won't want to be bothered. how it comes is how it'll work.

I'm not sure which way you are arguing?

I'm saying this will be the solution to prevent energy consumption spikes and that majority of people won't care enough to change anything about the default. We seem to agree on the second part at least.

If I understood correctly you are saying this won't work for majority of people, but there I disagree. I think this won't be a problem for majority of people and only some smaller group will have problems.

yes, we disagree.

Market pricing and delayed charging are the correct answer (to the extent there is one), but charging after work is still an issue, because the commute home has to be recharged. As you point out, there is also an analogous event at the start of the work day, which occurs during higher energy demand.

not sure which of us came to that conclusion first.

Me neither, but you were the quicker draw.

and I used more words, I win. lol