How do you make a case for property rights to people who predominantly rent instead of own, take on debt instead of saving, excessively rely on public transport to go anywhere, don't want to accumulate wealth because they despise it for some reason and don't want to get married or start a family?
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Do the opposite. Not to ‘make a case’ but because it makes you happy and it’s a better way to live.
It is indeed a better way to live.
The reason why I ask is it's better to live in a society that values property rights than one that doesn't.
Perhaps what you're saying is that it starts with me living that way, people seeing that I am happy and content in living that way, then deciding to do the same and as a result a social order emerging from it spontaneously.
Maybe these people who apparently despise wealth do so because they see how pursuit of it can takeover a person’s life.
Perhaps the pursuit of assets which are truly interlocked with property rights (Bitcoin) rather than wealth with weak property rights (assets which are easy for the government to seize, regulate and tax) will help break this cycle.
For true wealth means less of a need/compulsion to chase meagre returns.
Yeah the nature of money messes with the way we perceive it.
Something that loses its value constantly will definitely be hated and despised.
That's probably why Bitcoiners have a different attitude towards money and wealth in general.
In the real world whwrre people are working minimum wage bro we cant afford anything and taking debt is not the way to go. The only way out for poor people is to stop spending money on bullshit and save in bitcoin and then after 5 years maybe we will be able to afford a life like wealthy people. I speak from the ghetto of America. Trust me i want more kids but the way diapers and baby milk is setup i choose not to have anymore kids 2 is fine and still very very expensive
And no i dont wanna hear so work harder no i refuse to work harder
Well, I'm saying property rights is still important in this world you're describing.
You dont own shit. Ownership is a lie
You will be free to believe that as long as you don't try to steal something other people own. Then you will have a problem.
Yeah and youre free to continue paying property tax on the house you own and if you dont the government will evict you
I'm not clear about your position on property rights. Are you for it or against it?
If you are for it, then my question in the OP is for you.
To remove property taxes, people living in a society that has them first have to become aware of the importance of property rights.
Im saying you never actually own anything. The bank owns your house and car and it can all be taken away.
Ownership is like when you buy a soccerball from the supermarket, you pay once and after that there is no extra fees to keep it, theres no threat of it being taken away if you dont pay protection fee (tax)
Not everyone will have their houses and cars owned by banks. There are those with zero debt or liabilities.
I'm saying you do own things. A social order that knows what ownership and property rights mean will prosper.
To make things more defined, check out Locke's definition of property means and let me know if you agree with that definition.
“Owning” a house is the same as renting. You have no control of the land, all minerals under it are still in the hands of government, any changes made to the house have to have approval first. You are renting control of the property, you dont actually control/own the property
You are describing a political and legal situation that exists in your country.
I am talking about the importance of property rights and how to make a case for it.