Nostr Web Client

It's worth noting though, exactly the same considerations will apply to #Element and the decentralised #Matrix network seems to protect them from it.

Of course Matrix has some big out of town backers like #Mozilla on their side at chat.mozilla.org but I see no reason Simplex could reach out in the same way.

In fact it's a really good idea. One of the reasons organisations can't block Element is because they can't block Mozilla.

That alliance has made them almost censorship proof.

#chat #securechat #dex

OpnState 1y ago

Step 1. Jurisdiction passes law restricting encrypted secure social platforms, requiring back doors, etc.

Legislation has criminal penalties for non compliance.

Step 2. Jurisdiction will take 1-2 years to "police the perimeter" and identify entities within scope of the legislation.

Step 3. Ban-Hammer nails down non compliant platforms, enforcement phase. Usually 3-4 years after passing of legislation.

We are (in UK, Canada, aus, EU, ) currently in step 2.

Mozilla and all other entities may bring enforcement matters to court however once a law is passed it's really hard to argue against it. Judges enforce the laws and interpret them.

I wouldn't assume mozzila backing protects from 1984 government. Problem is most of those entities are doxxed and thus have balls to grab. Government will grab them and squeeze.

solution : don't be doxxed. dont use legal entities like foundations or not for profits for your projects. Do them a-la-satoshi and give a finger to the central state

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Silner 1y ago

So how do you feel about trustless messengers?

#cwtch

#tox

#retroshare

OpnState 1y ago

Ultimately any app that offers privacy and anonymity with doxxed devs is at risk of gov pressure.

Using simplex now, best there is that I can see

Silner 1y ago

Interesting you say that. No one seems to know who wrote #retroshare which seems to worry some people, but you may be right.

Some think the developer of #muwire -the #i2p based client - abandoned the project rather than kowtow to #Govt

OpnState 1y ago

I was not aware of either of those projects. Thank you.

The way to dev is to dev without a governable structure (no company, foundation, not for profit, etc) and anonymously.

Strange to think simple messenger apps may be targets for gov intervention .

Silner 1y ago

It's worth noting, there are completely censorship resistant communication systems, but they're more effort.

If I send you the public key by email and then send the private key as a QR code later, no one else even knows the server exists.