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*deep sigh*

I feel Semi's intent here is good, but the execution is bad. He is correct, that Onyx is unable to trend on Primal because of Primal's filters, right? This warning message may not show to Onyx, but that doesn't negate the fact that these terms do apply to her, right?

Is it a dick move to create this fake image? Yes. Absolutely! Is it a dick move to remind people that this is actually happening? No.

Again, I think the execution is bad here

Let's fix that.

Hey nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr my man. If a user such as Onyx always uses the NSFW hashtag on their more risque images, would that help to remove them from being filtered from trending? Hmm. I'll answer this myself, probably not, because she could accidentally forget once and that would slip through the filter. So, that's not a good fix.

What about ML? At some point in the future when time and budgets permits, would you consider using ML to tag and filter images? If the ML determines it's risque or NSFW image, don't trend it. I'm sure it's not hard to train a model to look for nudes or lots of skin. Thoughts?

Lastly, no one has a perfect answer for every issue. We're all trying to make Nostr the best that we can. Some of us just build and communicate differently.

I do wish that Semi spent a little more time building all that we've discussed instead of spending his energy on this.

Anyways. Let's go us. Bullish on all of us. Fuck yeah Nostr.

🤙🏻🫂💜

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PABLOF7z 2y ago

It’s a good and nuanced take you had here nostr:npub18ams6ewn5aj2n3wt2qawzglx9mr4nzksxhvrdc4gzrecw7n5tvjqctp424 and nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr but doctoring this image is a dumb move that should be called out.

We don’t want top-down protocol-level moderation, partly that’s why many of us are here. That means that when someone misbehaves it should be called out. And here, specifically, doctoring a picture to trash someone’s product is simply bad.

I said this to nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj privately and probably publicly too in the past; I don’t understand why he’s so fixated on Primal but nothing speaks louder than code and we have the opportunity of building our individual visions for nostr.

Don’t get distracted, focus on building.

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DeFiYoGi⚡️|Fix the money, fix the world| 2y ago

Amém, sir 🙏

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Landy 2y ago

Agreed, there isn’t an easy fix for this stuff but we should at least pretend to be adults. Derek makes good arguments

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SMS 2y ago

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average_bitcoiner 2y ago

Do you dislike political satire cartoons?

Semi was clearly expressing himself using art. This is not an attack on a person. It’s a critique of a website. If you don’t want your product critiqued, you shouldn’t build a public product.

Generative AI will be much more malicious than this or the previous “attack”.

Furthermore, I find it weak and off putting to cry every time someone critiques your product. Not the sign off quality leadership. Not that my personal opinion matters much there.

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crimsonleaf363 2y ago

One cat is getting a lot of attention. The last update from Primal was over a month ago.