I wish Nostr clients displayed sequences of notes as "threads" like Twitter.

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Like coracle?

Coracle does that? I think not.

I mean notes from the same person combined together in a readable sequence.

Why have that if you have no character limit?

You’ll be able to separate your larger thesis into digestible chunks or building blocks and get feedback on separate pieces of the general larger info you are putting across.

😞 thought we were over Twitter threads but I guess some people like them.

I’m just passing the thought along. I think Highlighter will do a much better job at addressing chunks of text than the necessity to break your thought into pieces.

Exactly; break the thing into the chunks as the reader sees fit

To provide clarity and hints about different ideas. Much like chapters in books, but in smaller scale

Long form article better for communicating larger ideas imo

So you are saying an npub replying to their own post should be classified a “thread”. Clients could identify those and display a “show thread” link as twitter does.

I have an idea for how I might do that

Just started usng Plebstr and it does threads nicely

https://nostr.build/p/nb9120.mov

Thanks for trying that out 🧡

satellite.earth

I agree with you!

Have you tried latest Plebstr update?

I use and didn't see this option.

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Me too! I miss having that!

Yes, 100%

Posting that here once more, because threaded conversations and character limits truly are ingenious.

I never thought of it that way, I thought a character limiter would get in the way, but your arguments really make sense.

What we have with now is pitched as a Twitter replacement but the "news feed" feels much more like Facebook

I dont agree. Yes messages can be shorter, but forcing it is absolutely not the way to go. There are cases where longpost content is needed.

That. That would be Twitter.

Let's create something new and next level

Why thread if all the content can be in one note?

I think one of the best points in favor of threading made by #[4]​ is the ability to have replies and discussions about specific paragraphs and sentences. Totally agree.

Which is kind of where nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft 's highlighter.com comes into play, but that would involve jumping to a different client for that post.

we need to make jumping through apps seamless or superapps win and nostr is fucked

I think we need to redefine our conception of what is “an app”. Maybe Nostr is the super app and micro-apps/app-fragments can be orchestrated within a single iOS/Android “app” experience.

discussed this with #[8]​ a bit on a podcast… will publish it tomorrow

Interoperable and seamless nostr app ecosystem would be better than any monolithic super app. We’ve got interoperability (for the most part), but discovery and seamless app launching would make the interoperability more valuable to users.

Oh yeah, I’m not suggesting a monolithic super app. Nostr the protocol is the replacement of the super app concept and it’s open/public-domain and doesn’t specify a specific “app” implementation.

iOS/Android apps can be built to allow people to login/orchestrate various experiences, but those experiences themselves should be composeable/portable across “app” experiences, imo.

When the web browser emerged it was like an orchestrating app for experiences on the web. None of the web experiences natively ran on Windows or MacOS, but they ran natively in the browser. Browsers had to be written in native Windows or MacOS to bridge to the web/protocol experiences.

is that a video? isn’t playing for me

This is why I wrote NIP-89

89: the year of the fall of the Berlin Wall.

I choose this number for a very specific reason.

The fall of the Silos Wall

Tear down that wall.

Seems to me there must be a way – along with that event kind discovery NIP – to make it easy to deep link into each others apps.

Imagine dynamic link creation when rendering notes to generate zapster:note1... or hightlighter:naddr1... or listr:npub1... type links.

Might require users to specify their preferred apps in their metadata but it's not impossible... 🤔

No, no hardcoded app handlers are needed.

Hardcoded handlers need not apply

😂 not hardcoded. Dynamic based on user’s choice.

That’s what NIP-89 does but without “branding” the scheme (which would be a centralizing shitcoin) 😂

There is https://nostrapp.link/ by nostr.band which acts as web based app switcher. Even works with listr.lol already. It's a first step in that direction.

How can we make it easier for websites to add “sign in with nostr” buttons? I haven’t been able to implement NIP-07 logins. Seems like a good starting point

#[8]​ is on route here, but there’s a lot of work ahead for all of us.

https://lnshort.it/nostr-mobile

Theres a place in the space for superapps though. Just in terms of user experience, would you rather have 6 apps taking space on your device or 1 that handles it all? Even if the six are done better for their niches, the one will enjoy a larger userbase.

6 will likely take less space than 1 if they are built by minimalist developers.

Yeah, 100% six apps and it’s not even close.

1 app is fiat/legacy thinking

Funny how thinking has become such a popular thing, special case when it comes down to the fact.

🤩

Well…maybe. I do think folks will chase experience. And perhaps will “onboard” with an app that is trying to do “too many” thing on the Nostr protocol.

When I speak Spanish I am still thinking in English. I takes a bit to internalize the differences between a platform and a protocol.

And yes I am indicting myself as well.

Broo yes this is the solution, galaxy brain idea there. Who needs threads if you can slice and dice long-form content and show conversations inline?

I’m driving with my wife and when I just told her about this particular use case (synchronicity!) her head exploded!

She looks at everything from the point of view of sales and feels like this would be incredible for sales

I already have a mockup for this in my head

If only Pablo hosted a proxy himself and not relied on some free CORS proxy that is always down!

#[0] #[1] made a great one you can self host! https://github.com/coracle-social/dufflepud

I appreciate that I don't have to worry about that when a big thought comes up but I definitely understand how that would be helpful on reader's side.

Is this what you mean? I'm viewing this using Iris.to.

why would you put a sequence if there is no content length limit?

Amethyst for Android does this.

Some people absolutely detest threads, I don’t know why

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These ones are really evil.

Because threads will trigger their cat's attention and they fear never getting it for themselves again. Seems logical

character limits with threaded conversations can be good depending on who is using it...It can force people to be objective, precise, and organized or to just be dumb and superficial, as it happens a lot on twitter too....Think that some highlighting to the text, with comment link window as adobe pdf, could be a greater achievement